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> MOTU 828 vs. DIGI 001
damann
post Thu 25 Jul 2002, 20:27
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the hammerfall is looking great!
however, i just refuse to buy a "new" audio interface that has to use a pci card. blink.gif
i have three macs, one of which is a Tibook, i want to be able to plug a firewire cable into any of them to make music!!!
hammerfall are definitely a company to watch for future developement though... wink.gif they just released the first osx audio driver!!! cool.gif


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post Thu 25 Jul 2002, 20:57
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I just purchased the MOTU 828 yesterday, and it is simply excellent. The sound quality is pristine, and I just can't be happier. I have not experienced any latency whatsoever, even monitoring the output through the computer instead of using their latency-free hardware-based monitoring. The Audiodesk software that comes with it is relatively powerful; with several real-time effects and the like to choose from. I'll use that until a strong performer steps up for OS X, at which time I'll switch to that.

I emailed MOTU's tech support a few days ago when I was considering the purchase and they replied promptly, letting me know that OS X drivers and software should be out, I believe they said by the end of the summer. They should be available as a free download to registered owners.

Someone asked the question if a Titanium Powerbook would handle the MOTU unit: In a word, YES!. The minimum requirements listed in the MOTU manual are a 300Mhz G3 processor, and some ridiculously small amount of RAM and hard disk space. In a few months after my girlfriend and I save up a bit more cash (I just layed out over $700 for the MOTU) we'll be buying an iBook - 600Mhz G3, and I fully expect it to be able to handle the MOTU for a portable recording solution.

Currently I'm running it on an 800Mhz G4 iMac, and couldn't be happier. I'm just beginning to work my way through the Audiodesk manual though, which is a substantial read! smile.gif

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post Fri 26 Jul 2002, 01:41
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i'd like to address this post directly to motu. unsure.gif
you guys are responsible for THE most popular, revered AUDIO INTERFACES available. cool.gif
your forward thinking, and endorsement of the macintosh platform has culminated in the release and ultimately wholehearted endorsement of the wonderful 828. smile.gif
PLEASE realise that, although you were the first music based software developers for the mac, and have maintained EXCELLENCE in this arena, your hardware is endorsed by MANY musicians that don't use performer software. huh.gif
STAY AHEAD, don't wait for performer to be ready for x before you make audio drivers available.
realise that your hardware has a whole REPUTATION of its' own, that could, in the event of you taking it seriously enough, HELP dp. unsure.gif
if motu had released the first x audio drivers, a major battle would have been won outright by the favourites. every salesman in every music store would have naturally recommended a complete motu solution to every purchaser of a new mac!!! wink.gif
at the moment, unfortunately, i, and many others are wondering how quickly to "ditch" motu hardware in order to stay in the "game".
hammerfall seem to have chosen their name very well. unsure.gif
let's see a "hammerfall" from the MASTERS of the game.
please.


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post Fri 26 Jul 2002, 02:23
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oh yeah,
this thread started out as motu 828 vs. digi 001!
dodgy oh, oh who?

breath in slooowly...breath oouutt...
sorry, i've calmed down now, but what a piece of CARP!
1. i've heard better mic pre's on a seck desk.
2. why do they have to have a party that i'm not invited to, in my system folder???
3. why do their decidedly average plugins cost the kind of money that would buy a car that would throw in a free bl*wj@b?
4. why do they insist that the word "compatibility" dosen't exist?
5. why direct io?
6. why tdm/rtas?
7. why oms?
8. etc etc... unsure.gif
9. ditto
10. just "why" sad.gif
i'm being aggresive here, but for good reason. we're not here to advertise "products", we're here to "critique" them! cool.gif


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post Fri 26 Jul 2002, 03:47
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digi 001 does not equal "pro tools" by sam ashs' or any other pro standards wink.gif
just because it bears the digidesign name, dosen't mean it's this "pro solution" that the digi salesmen may "imply" it is> blink.gif
in its' price range, it actually competes with some heavyweight competition! wink.gif !!!
not, particularly successfully! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
"828"! that number "comes up" every time i think of mac audio interfaces.
rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif
this subject is well documented on this site,
getting boring actually,
almost as much as the "oms" debate. wink.gif
rock 'n' roll is dead! huh.gif
long live rack 'n' roll! wink.gif wink.gif wink.gif tongue.gif cool.gif huh.gif smile.gif laugh.gif


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post Fri 26 Jul 2002, 12:02
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Just upon your (justified) rant damann, 828 driver and Clockworks are in public beta since the 24th, so by september at the very least, finals will be there.

Also, the guys at MOTU, they where their money is, hardware is more than 60% of their sales… I think they KNOW it wink.gif

well, at least, I hope rolleyes.gif


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post Sat 27 Jul 2002, 03:42
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hmmm, yeah, i did get a bit carried away there... unsure.gif
must have been that last beer at 5 in the morning!
peace to all, it's only 'cos i care...


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post Sat 27 Jul 2002, 04:50
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so...ummm..let me get this straight...digi is offering b***jobs? wha? wow..i was considering motu..but now i just don't know.
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post Wed 31 Jul 2002, 11:15
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I bought my Motu 828, 8 months ago, and a friend of mine bought Digi001.
I am happy, he is not, so he is selling his Digi and buying Moto.

The only thing that's left for him to do is to throw that PC of his out of the window and buy a G4. I am working on it
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post Thu 15 Aug 2002, 05:15
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I would like to add my 2 cents, as I have owned both systems. Let it be known that I only do audio for music, not film or anything else. I initially bought the 828 because it was the only system that worked with the iMac that I owned at the time. The unit was great, sounded great... the audio editing kinda sucked, and that is what eventually led me to sell the unit.....

and buy a 001 with a 500mHz DP G4. The editing features are great and really easy to learn. The unit sounds just as good as the 828 and the only downside to the whole deal is the midi features suck ass. Oh well, at least I have a MPC, so all the bases are covered.

If you plan to edit files in different studios and other places, get a digi... Pro Tools is everywhere and that is not going to change. Everybody knows that MOTU does midi and only does audio because they have to... Digi does audio and does a shitty job at midi. Since we are talking about tracking machines, the answer is obvious.
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