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post Tue 6 Sep 2005, 20:05
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QUOTE (celticdale @ Sep 6 2005, 11:21)
QUOTE (BobbiStyle @ Sep 2 2005, 15:02)
NO fw 400/800 and NO 24/96Khz?? Idiots. Everyone else is. Ah well, living in the past these days Digi is me thinks.

I have a great "home setup" around a Hammer 9632 192khz with Logic Pro, was hoping to have a Digi box too for edits/transfers but lack of 96k and no firewire means this is a no no.

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(ProTools HD3 owner too.)

I had one other question. You mention "transfers". What do you mean by that? If you're a HD3 owner, what are you lacking that a Mbox with 96kHz offer? My LE sessions import directly into HD systems. If I was going to do some really high fidelity work with mics, I'd go to a studio and not use the Mbox at home.

I'm just trying to understand the "transfer" statement you made. A HD3 system costs around 10K. That's a lot more than a 0.5K system. java script:emoticon(':-/')
smilie

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~Dale

Hi Dale

To answer your questions the HD3 is not at my home studio, hence the need for an MBox to "transfer" from ProTools sessions to Logic Pro. 96khz is my usual record/mix depth so it also needs this compatibility to open and export the sessions correctly (also incase of last minute edits). As I am only doing this function I do not wish to purchase a 002R for instance so I am disappointed at their lack of 96khz. The MBox 1 is better specked with Focusrite pre's and being almost identical in other areas. A lack of 2 headphones is annoying but livable. USB 1 is just plain stupid when everyone else is either Firewire or USB 2 and USB is real "glitchy" too. Even though I don't need it for recording and all of the things it is designed for I still have an opinion of what it is and how it compares in the market place. At the moment, an M-Audio FireWire box with PT LE will have to do instead, which is sad as Digidesign should have a better base box than their freshly acquired M-Audio company

I watch Digidesign's development as I have over a decade invested in them in hardware purchases and overall "devotion" to their format and software platform. It worries me to see them abandon the end that could float them as they concentrate on their ICon series of products (which I would love to own). Word of warning to them, they killed of AMS-Neve and SSL from being the large industry standards for music/postpro/video mixing etc. and they were the relative "small guy" when they did this. (Hello Euphonix anyone?) If they ignore this end of the market then they too will be bumped off. It also worries me that their software is way behind the market. To slip in such largely important areas is a big concern when you have so much invested in their products and for your own career and overall income. As for calling them idiots, I would call a friend an idiot if he or she did and equally stupid move also. They need to know this from their users and reevaluate their current trend to re-bundle plugin packages with hardware to get people to buy while not developing updates (I know, 6.4-6.9 software updates) or new products that are truly a step forward.

But to sum it up, this product is way below market standards and is not worth the money and most Digidesign users know that the new Focusrite Saffire Box was going to be the new MBox 2 and the one Digidesign has delivered is nothing more than a re-boxed slightly reworked original MBox minus the Focusrite hardware. Sad but true. Let's hope Digidesign manages to rediscover their innovative side and start making some great new products for Digidesign fans LIKE MYSELF who are having difficulties in justifying continued investment in their products and customer devotion. (The HD range hasn't been updated in over 18 months either.) They were the leaders for a long time, I wish they would be again.

Regards
Bobbi

Ref:
Focusrtie Saffire
http://www.focusrite.com/productdetails.as...?id=38&iRange=5

M-Audio 410
http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/Fire...re410-main.html
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- news   Digidesign MBox 2 USB   Fri 2 Sep 2005, 16:02
- - BobbiStyle   NO fw 400/800 and NO 24/96Khz?? Idiots. Everyone e...   Fri 2 Sep 2005, 16:02
- - lotan   Can somebody tell me what's the new deal on th...   Fri 2 Sep 2005, 19:09
- - MKallen   very, very weird. no higher support for 96k and f...   Fri 2 Sep 2005, 19:25
- - mapmap   yeah i don't get that handle at all.... does ...   Sat 3 Sep 2005, 07:15
- - Rockyroad   > does it serve some other function? like to pr...   Sun 4 Sep 2005, 00:45
- - thedomus   At least the old one had two headphone outs...usef...   Sun 4 Sep 2005, 15:57
- - beatfreq   I'm guessing the license for the Focusrite pre...   Mon 5 Sep 2005, 03:59
- - thepzl   joke. just a dongle to run PTLE at only 48k, crip...   Tue 6 Sep 2005, 02:48
- - doggg powder   48khz....pfffffffff..... really innovative...lol.....   Tue 6 Sep 2005, 14:17
- - celticdale   QUOTE (BobbiStyle @ Sep 2 2005, 15:02)NO fw 4...   Tue 6 Sep 2005, 18:00
- - celticdale   QUOTE (BobbiStyle @ Sep 2 2005, 15:02)NO fw 4...   Tue 6 Sep 2005, 19:21
- - celticdale   QUOTE (BobbiStyle @ Sep 6 2005, 19:05)QUOTE (...   Tue 6 Sep 2005, 21:00
- - rickenbacker   Any company that releases a USB 1.1 audio interfac...   Wed 7 Sep 2005, 13:50
- - dave-g   It's so sad to see "what could have been...   Wed 7 Sep 2005, 14:57
- - toddr   So I paid $500 for a presonus firepod brand n...   Wed 7 Sep 2005, 23:37
- - dangt   Gee, you people are making a lot of fuss over his,...   Thu 8 Sep 2005, 04:10
- - toddr   well your right about that, go make music, its ...   Fri 9 Sep 2005, 01:03
- - dave-g   I guess the thing that really burns me up is that ...   Fri 9 Sep 2005, 14:26
- - citypigeon   i like the fact you get a version of melodyne with...   Fri 9 Sep 2005, 17:37
- - dave-g   it's funny you mentioned the industrial design...   Fri 9 Sep 2005, 18:25
- - teleblues   Well, Ive been waiting patiently for the new Mbox,...   Sun 11 Sep 2005, 19:29
- - thedomus   You have to remember that design is a personal thi...   Sun 11 Sep 2005, 19:43
- - ullanta   QUOTE (BobbiStyle @ Sep 6 2005, 19:05)QUOTE (...   Mon 12 Sep 2005, 05:20
- - BobbiStyle   QUOTE (ullanta @ Sep 11 2005, 21:20)QUOTE (Bo...   Mon 12 Sep 2005, 05:56
- - celticdale   QUOTE (rickenbacker @ Sep 7 2005, 12:50)Any c...   Mon 12 Sep 2005, 17:21
- - abcdaniel   Yeah, of course the music is the most important. A...   Mon 12 Sep 2005, 18:42
- - _T2k_   Two words: ridiculously overpriced. Asking ...   Mon 12 Sep 2005, 19:14
- - rickenbacker   celticdale didn't last long, did he?   Tue 13 Sep 2005, 16:14
- - toddr   yes celticdale I see your point, the reason anyo...   Fri 16 Sep 2005, 03:12
- - thetaxi.AN971   I would venture to say that Digi didn't upgrad...   Fri 30 Sep 2005, 20:05
- - toddr   Yes you have a point there, its all about what we...   Fri 30 Sep 2005, 20:09
- - gkeys   Man, I've been wanting to say this for a long ...   Sun 9 Oct 2005, 14:07
- - BobbiStyle   Hi GKeys Actually, the issues you have with the M...   Sun 9 Oct 2005, 15:50
- - gkeys   Hi Bobbi, Thanks for the comment. How about the ...   Mon 10 Oct 2005, 10:08
- - geokie8   OK I'm brand new (both to this forum as well t...   Wed 19 Oct 2005, 02:06
- - dave-g   welcome geoki, i have the feeling you aren't g...   Wed 19 Oct 2005, 16:17
- - geokie8   Hey, thx for taking the time. I'll check thes...   Thu 20 Oct 2005, 00:23
- - lepetitmartien   As long as we are not a Pc site at all (doesn...   Thu 20 Oct 2005, 00:49
- - abcdaniel   Has anyone bought Mbox2? Anyone tried it? What are...   Thu 20 Oct 2005, 10:48


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