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> What Do You All Think About Kontakt As To Esx24?, Compare soft samplers!!
III777III
post Tue 1 Oct 2002, 07:18
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••I like to TIME stretch per sample (like loops)
••I like to change the Pitch of a sample with out changing the time and leignth
••I like to have the best quality possible, accurate playback.
••I would like full automation on all p-rameters of filters etc.
••I would like more formts as possible, CD Xtract does it fo now.
••I would like a simple and easy interface, key zone layout and graphics.
••more instances ofcourse and multi outs.

I have used the esx24 for 2 years now, i created a excellent 12GIG library of sounds i use more then any sample cds i still try to get to improve it.
I have been sampling since PUBLIC ENEMY's Eric Shockly has been tweaking AKAIS S900 mono out samplers in the 80s and i swore by the esx24 and thought its future would intergrate emu and roland de emphesis but still no luck ; / .

Basically i have over 85 songs with esx24 sample instances and trapped if i never got a esx24 like lots of people that have to go threw the KeyCode gestapos in GERMANY.


AND NOW?; i waited for Kotakt mac and emagic moves to there new audio units, i got kontakt Mac finaly and ofcourse its a vst app, what the hell is going on in this biz next NO ONE KNOWS!!!

So what am i going to do next, learn kontakt????, seems like its a great sampler but not easy after getting used to a esx24.

Also i JUST heard the esx32/64 is around the corner in oct.2002 and it has been improved XTREAMLY to justify a KONTAKT corssgrade to this audio unit sampler.

So my question to those SAMPLE GARUS is?
What do you guys think about KONTAKT?,

Is it better off continuing with the esx24/32/64 whatever the next hype is, or is vst a bad investment, and if so please let me know why you think KONTAKT is so important to start loading a library and its chances of been the one and only sampler in the future?

Will KONTAKT support audio units?
Can KOTANKT do the ultimate JOB?

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post Tue 1 Oct 2002, 15:25
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my opinion is that if you are looking to make a quick jump to OSX and audio units then stay with the ESX24 or whatever it migrates to because I would think that since Emagic has introduced this new format... it would be the leader in porting products over to it and since the ESX24 is one of its more popular apps... they might jump on it quicker than makers of Kontact might... but then again if loops are your main thing... might just want to wait a bit to see what pops up for use in audio units.


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post Tue 1 Oct 2002, 18:40
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My opinion, since you asked, is that any company who would go to all the trouble to produce and release such a major audio product on the Mac at THIS late date that works only in OS 9.x or below has their head so far up their Gates (a pun on several levels) that they don't even know that 10.2.1 is *above* 8.6. (Yeah, they're one of the companies that puts "8.6 or above" on their products without bothering to mention that it doesn't work at all in 10.x, preferring to pretend that it's still 1999 and OS X never has existed.)

There's no way I can find to even know whether work done in the OS 8.6-9.x version of Kontakt will even be *useable* if and when they ever wake up to the fact that Mac has moved on to 10.x, and actually convert any of their products to OS 10.x, since all their literature and promotion that I can find seems irrevocably dedicated to the propsition that OS 10.x doesn't exist at all.

I guess for those who are content to remain indefinitely in OS 9.x, Kontakt has great appeal. There's no question that it would be an irresistably attractive program--if only we all were back in the last century with Native Instruments. Personally, I'm moving on...
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post Wed 2 Oct 2002, 15:07
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tongue.gif Hey Levon,

Here's a quote fromthe Native-Instruments site:

Q:When will the MacOS X versions of the NI products be available?
A: Native Instruments is working intensely on making all of our products compatible with the forward-thinking MacOS X operating system, which through its direct implementation audio and MIDI features, Core Audio and Core MIDI, sets new standards for the integration of virtual
instruments. As soon as October 2002 NI will release TRAKTOR DJ Studio 2.0, the first software product for MacOS X.
The compatibility of other products is moving ahead at top speed. On account of the high level of effort required for development, specific statements on the time of arrival for other products cannot be made at this time. Most NI products will be ready during the course of 2003.

Until then NI products work as seamlessly as ever with MacOS 9.2, which is included with all OS X systems or can be obtained for a small handling fee. You can have both OS 9.2 and OS X installed at the same time. However you should not use the Classic mode in OS X, but reboot directly to OS 9.2; music software does not work with Classic mode.
If you would like more information on this topic, please get in touch with our E-mail Info-Service.

As a user of most of their products, I'm OK with their progress on OS X.
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post Wed 2 Oct 2002, 17:00
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QUOTE (DANO10 @ Oct 2 2002, 14:07)
As a user of most of their products, I'm OK with their progress on OS X.

Then book 'em, Dan0.

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P.S. In the Something They Left Out Department: they are Carbonizing their apps. Write 'em and ask 'em. wink.gif
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