Cubase Sx Or Logic Pro 7, switching from Cubase to Logic ? Options

[karkul]

Hi,
I'm new in this and need some opinions. I'd like to know who actually switched from Cubase to Logic and why?What is the main reason and what are the options? I'm thinking to buy a powerbook, but Cubase is more sympatic to me,that can run on PC and Mac. Is the Logic better software to create an electronic music (ambient)than Cubase and why?

thank you

[kcosimo]

I´m working on Cubase because i'm working a lot with surround sound, the possibilities are much, much better for surround sound in Cubase,
for ex. i am using Waves Surround tools ( plug-in eff. for surround) and that plug isn't working i Logic.

[PhilTrueman]

karkul,

I've used both - Cubase first, Logic later. Why did I change?

Umm... tricky.... Cubase is complex and tries to be all things to all people - and fails at some of them. Logic is complex - but you do get a 'complete' package - and it just does what it's meant to do.

It's a hard question to answer - sometimes it's just 'it suits me'.

FWIW - the surround sound abilities of logic are just fine - but, of course, any plug-in has to be an Audio Unit. Well - unless you buy the VST to AU wrapper. Respect to kcosimo.

I'm glad I chose Logic. But if I were you I'd try both if you can - and choose after a little test run.

Electronic (ambient) music - well Logic has some great plugins - especially Sculpture. But I should imagine that Cubase also has some great stuff. I'm a tad out of date now WRT Cubase.

Any more answers from anyone?

Regards

PT

[tedthetrumpet]

Get a lot of bang for your buck with Logic Pro, especially if you can manage to qualify for the edu discount. Comes with a whole bunch of really great instruments and plugins; a sampler, drum machine, hammond emulator, clav emulator, electric piano, several very powerful synths including one which does physical modelling, pitch corrector, spectral impulse reverb, a couple of DVDs worth of loops and presets, the 'Environment' which can do real time midi stuff like Max (not MSP, though), two manuals with a lot of interesting history and tutorials on electronic music, and a full mastering and cd burning application!

With Cubase SX, you get the app, and a couple of really pretty dire synths and plugins. You'll be buying *a lot* of extra stuff to make it go! Some things maybe a bit slicker than Logic, the time stretching and audio quantization maybe a bit ahead. A drum editor, which Logic sort of kind of doesn't have.

(Small point, but if you care about such things the score editor in Logic is quite useable once you get to know it, while the one in Cubase is complete pants.)

$0.02

[Chris C.L]

I am currently using cubase SE on a 1Ghz G4 imac. Rescently I started doing some research into both upgradeing to cubase SL and shipping my mac off to america(stubon fool loves me imac)for prosessor upgrade as I do not have the prosessing power to do the things I want on a finel mix.
I have been under a false illusion of needing more power. Look at cubase recomended system-Power Mac G5 Dual 1.8 GHz or faster.
Reading through all arckived stuff on a logic forums I couldn't believe how many more audio tracks+plugins people where getting on machines less compitent than mine.
Its a shame as I know my way round cubase very well and am curently trying to suss out a demo of logic express. There is no way I can upgrade to logic Pro and dont think I will go for logic either as my main reason for upgradeing is that I need full external midi control on both AU instuments + effects. Express has limited midi controler set up and I cant find out what limitations are or even suss them out in demo+lack of customer support(worse than steinberg).
I have also looked at live5 but I think my mac will be underpowered again. Metro is what I am saveing up for if I can get my head round the fact that its nothing like cubase.

[ed van otterdijk]

Hi there,

Logic is for the pro's, cubase is nice for your Pc and if you would like to get access to a lot of illegal software and plug ins.
In the end it comes down to a competition between more expensive and more reliable apple and cheaper more consumer compatible windows. Windows can't even stand in the shadow of Apple, so I would recommand Logic.

best, Ed

[shaneblyth]

used Logic pro and Dp 4.5 and ended at Cubase ..
To use Logic you need to have a play. After a few months i was just not getting it.. I had trouble setting up some stuff with it. My control surface was doing wierd stuff and even after reading heaps on the enviroment I couldnt get my simple studio gear to function reliably. It seemed more the MIDI side of stuff.
How did I get to cubase.. well the le version came free with my tascam FW1082 interface which is a dream to use and setup. . I upgraded to SX 3 after a month.
Things I found better in my experience was just the fact that Logic I (7.1) seemed to be very quirkey and a bit flakey I tried real hard and read alot and when i got cubase LE I found it was stable and just worked the way I did. This is my personal experience. Others obviously get their head around Logic but their are a lot of use who find it very illogical.. Until you try it out and find out out if you are one of the ones that "get it" you wont know. I got sick of watching training DVD 's, reading the manual and one of the best Logic books.. I am happy now. The beat slicing in SX is great for electronic music not that that is what I am into and also I love the playtrack order feature of Cubase.

This post has been edited by shaneblyth: Wed 16 Nov 2005, 06:24

[beyaRecords]

It all depends on what you want to do! I moved from Logic Pro to Nuendo 3 mainly in part to how material I produced sounded in Nuendo as aposed to Logic Pro. It just sounded far more vibrant.

Simple functionality in Logic can prove to be a big pain in the butt as well. For example, you open up an instance of Kontakt 1/2 in Logic Pro and you are presented with a stereo output channel in the mixer page, you do the same in Nuendo/Cubase and 8 channels are opened up! So for those working on that 6 part drum kit, one instance in cubase will allow you to route the kit parts to whatever output channel you want. In Logic you would need to open up 3 instances of Kontakt to reach the same goal!!

Beya

[Emile Miedema]

I use both Logic Pro 7 and Cubase SX 3 on a Mac G4 DP 2 * 1 Ghz. Of course, each of both applications has pros and cons, but in my opinion it's a matter of taste and it's a matter of the kind of audio jobs you like to do. When composing songs, I start with Logic, probably because of the very simple user interface and the way Logic Pro 7 handles it's virtual instruments. Nevertheless, I find the way Logic handles multi channel instruments quite complex, if compared to Cubase. On the other hand, when I need to do a lot of tracking, dubbing and/or post production, I often choose for Cubase SX, simply because this application has a lot more user friendly options for this kind of job. If I should have only little money to spend, I think that I would buy Logic Pro 7. It offers great value for money, a lot of FX, dynamics and instruments are included and the sound quality is definitely professional. Good Luck!

[xexo]

Ive used both extensively since the mid 90s.
Without going into a million reasons, Cubase.
Go with Cubase and never look back.
if Apple were to completely "Applefy" Logic and rewrite it from the ground up, then I'm sure
Id give it another shot.
But for me, (and I stress for me), Logic has been a pain to work with, even up to Pro 7.
IMO its a bloated piece of software with too many different menus, and the "Environment" (the core setup of Logic)
is extremely convoluted and unecessarily so.
I get way more music written with Cubase.
Way more.

My two.