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 Tue 14 Dec 2004, 12:56
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Hi, a drummer friend needs a drum machine to copy ideas from and help him set up complex polyrhythmic ideas etc is there one that's good for a programming novice or even one made for drummers to help with their technique?
Is there one perhaps that has visible grids that change depending on the meter you choose per drum as in a sequenecer on a computer? cheers J -------------------- Macbook Pro 2 ghz/15"/10.3.4/1 g RAM/x2 monitors/Logic Pro 7.2/Ableton Live 5.0/Reason 3/Fireface 800/PSP Vintage Warmer/Roland JD800/Roland SH101/Arturia Moog Modular/Epiphone Firebird 7/Guitar Rig/Dynaudio BM5a monitors.
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Wed 5 Jan 2005, 03:07
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 Newbie Group: Members Posts: 8 Joined: 05-Jan 05 From: San Diego - US Member No.: 57,829 |
It's older, but you could do pretty well with the Alesis DR-16. You can get one for around $125 now (new they were $250).
-------------------- Natobasso
---- Bass Guitar. Graphic Design. Junior IT. |
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Wed 5 Jan 2005, 11:04
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Member Group: Validating Posts: 76 Joined: 08-Jun 02 From: London Member No.: 5,004 |
Thanks very much for your help - I couldn't find the DR 16, did you mean HR?
If he wanted a Hi Hat in 6/8 and a Bass drum in 5/4 would he be able to do that ? Thanks again I really apreciate your suggestion. And they are cheap! J -------------------- Macbook Pro 2 ghz/15"/10.3.4/1 g RAM/x2 monitors/Logic Pro 7.2/Ableton Live 5.0/Reason 3/Fireface 800/PSP Vintage Warmer/Roland JD800/Roland SH101/Arturia Moog Modular/Epiphone Firebird 7/Guitar Rig/Dynaudio BM5a monitors.
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Wed 5 Jan 2005, 11:05
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Member Group: Validating Posts: 76 Joined: 08-Jun 02 From: London Member No.: 5,004 |
Thanks very much for your help - I couldn't find the DR 16, did you mean HR?
If he wanted a Hi Hat in 6/8 and a Bass drum in 5/4 would he be able to do that ? Thanks again I really apreciate your suggestion. And they are cheap! J -------------------- Macbook Pro 2 ghz/15"/10.3.4/1 g RAM/x2 monitors/Logic Pro 7.2/Ableton Live 5.0/Reason 3/Fireface 800/PSP Vintage Warmer/Roland JD800/Roland SH101/Arturia Moog Modular/Epiphone Firebird 7/Guitar Rig/Dynaudio BM5a monitors.
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Wed 5 Jan 2005, 14:08
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 07-Jan 04 From: San Francisco - US Member No.: 32,640 |
I believe he means the Alesis SR-16. I have one, it is a great value. Its great for many styles except 'synthesized electronic music' drums sounds - most of the sounds and more 'realistic', which is what I use it for and I love the results...
You can create patterns with it, but I use a computer sequencer (Digital Performer) for that, so I've never tried it... |
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Wed 5 Jan 2005, 18:47
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 8 Joined: 05-Jan 05 From: San Diego - US Member No.: 57,829 |
Whoops. Yep, I meant the SR (not DR) 16. As far as time signatures, you may have to fudge your different sigs for different instruments. For example, create a bar that adds up to the bass sig and the snare sig (17/8 or whatever it comes out to) and then make it work.
You can record patterns without a click to totally personalize your drum pattern, but then you have to be very precise while hitting the buttons on the machine since you can't quantize in that situation. 
-------------------- Natobasso
---- Bass Guitar. Graphic Design. Junior IT. |
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Wed 5 Jan 2005, 18:48
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 8 Joined: 05-Jan 05 From: San Diego - US Member No.: 57,829 |
Looks like 16/8 might do the trick, and you'd have two times around in that one cycle.
-------------------- Natobasso
---- Bass Guitar. Graphic Design. Junior IT. |
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Sun 9 Jan 2005, 00:29
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 22-Oct 04 From: Dildo - AU Member No.: 53,745 |
Another vote for the SR-16
Sounds good, easy to use and cheap.
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Sun 9 Jan 2005, 00:32
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 22-Oct 04 From: Dildo - AU Member No.: 53,745 |
Another vote for the SR-16
Sounds good, easy to use and cheap.
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Sun 9 Jan 2005, 03:19
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 1 Joined: 09-Jan 05 From: Toronto - CA Member No.: 58,070 |
Why bother with any mere hardware machine? There's a great new program from Canada that actually does everything you mention in your posting, and more--all in software. It's still being improved, but the developer is a whiz (i.e. intelligent) and it will probably soon become the outstanding creative percussion tool for the Mac. Name? Doggiebox. Get it.
-------------------- Cantante
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