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flobiej
post Thu 27 Jun 2002, 07:15
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I have some basic questions for any Pro Tools user.

First of all, I'm a songwriter in Nashville and I'm curious about upgrading to a protools setup.

1. Why choose a Mac instead of a PC?

2. Besides the Protools software, can someone list what all I need? I can't seem to find any complete information on what to buy. And some general price estimates would be great. I'm interested in the HD recording and not simply recording it to the computer's drive

I probably sound like an idiot, thats because im pretty new to this. Anyone that could help and be a reference or a guide would be greatly appreciated


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Teiwaz
post Mon 4 Nov 2002, 02:26
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Hi Presto. I dont allow digi to make me upset. The price of a floppy drive is nothing compared to what one ends up spending on the TDM/HD hardware. I'm sure you are quite happy with PTLE.

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Also, it just so happens to be my personal opinion that the PT platform is "carp". I'm entitled to that opinion. I earnt myself that opinion by spending all my money on their stuff!! I have much experience with TDM, and VST2. It is simply dodgydesign's ruthlessness towards their customers that I find "carp". If the software was incredible, then maybe I would put up with their customer policies, but it isn't. It's a basic multitracking solution.

Sure, great music can be made on anything, including an ancient 8 track Brenell, for example. But that doesn't mean that one was spared from sticking their finger into the supply reel at the end of their take in order to rewind the tape by hand because the rewind motor had given up. In short, I'm not saying that anyone's music suffers because they use PT. It's just that you have less creative options for more money spent.

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Around 6 months ago, I recieved a PT session from another studio. They had done the session in PT 5.1. I had PT 5.0. When I tried to open the song (I had a tight deadline in which to finish the project) I was dismayed to discover that PT 5.0 would not open a 5.1 song file.

Then, to my horror, I was forced into parting with $400 to upgrade to PT 5.1 just so I could OPEN the session. $400!! for a SOFT upgrade! Put another $200 on to that bill, and that's the price of a UAD-1 card! I was literally forced into going down the local music store to get 5.1 in order to begin my session! And what about some vast improvements? 5.1 surround? A handful of very minor improvements...

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In stark contrast, Emagic only charged $150 for a huge upgrade path to Logic 5x, tons of new plugs, automation to the hilt, major score improvements, and you can see they worked hard on their authorization protocol...a clever little USB key that holds all registrations for virtual instruments...not a floppy disk in sight in the Logic 5x box, etc etc.

I'm also highly aware that PT comes free with digi equipment. That's how I got "hooked" by them in the first place. As for getting PT software for free with the hardware, I should hope so too, for the $$$!

But remember...you only get their software "free" the first time. Then you're in the $$$ loop.

Concerning your Mbox...have you seen the competition in the form of the Apogee Mini Me? Looks very enticing indeed...

I dont care for not looking credible in the eyes of PT users...what does that mean anyway?! I'M still a PT user (occasionally, only because certain areas of the 'industry' still insists on using it still, but people are beginning to realise that the horse & carriage is being replaced by the car...)

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PS: Yes, my native county is in fact...Lancashire.


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- flobiej   Pro Tools Purchase   Thu 27 Jun 2002, 07:15
- - MrT   Welcome aboard sailor ! Here we go: '1. Why choos...   Thu 27 Jun 2002, 15:59
- - BagHun   More info: Pro Tools LE comes with the Digidesign...   Thu 27 Jun 2002, 17:02
- - cydonia   But does the mbox have any latency problems when r...   Fri 28 Jun 2002, 05:40
- - MrT   Ahhh...latency... I'm glad I have a mixer to avoid...   Fri 28 Jun 2002, 10:05
- - BagHun   Low Latency Monitoring is not available to Pro Too...   Tue 2 Jul 2002, 16:26
- - damann   low latency= lowest buffer setting, simple as that...   Wed 3 Jul 2002, 02:35
- - Mr.T   "digidesign don't give anything away unle...   Thu 4 Jul 2002, 17:02
- - cydonia   Well, if i had some cash i would move past the fre...   Sat 6 Jul 2002, 06:11
- - Mr.T   Don't worry, the latency we're talking abo...   Sat 6 Jul 2002, 12:22
- - cydonia   cool, so you mean that there's only latency on...   Sat 6 Jul 2002, 19:27
- - Mr.T   No, I'm just saying that this latency is only ...   Sun 7 Jul 2002, 13:09
- - cydonia   Yeah, it makes sense, thanks. Monitor latency isn...   Sun 7 Jul 2002, 18:06
- - Mr.T   There is no such thing with PTLE (I'm surprise...   Sun 7 Jul 2002, 23:25
- - cydonia   Thanks, i'm going to give that a try.   Mon 8 Jul 2002, 02:43
- - Presto   I am a humble songwriter and beginner on PT. I got...   Thu 11 Jul 2002, 05:20
- - Yukulele   QUOTE (flobiej @ Jun 27 2002, 08:15)1. Why ch...   Sat 13 Jul 2002, 22:49
- - beezkneez   hey cydonia, i'm also using pt free and the mi...   Wed 25 Sep 2002, 11:52
- - cydonia   it's a yamaha mt50, though i've had a few ...   Thu 26 Sep 2002, 02:12
- - Mr.T   For those of you still curious about how latency w...   Thu 26 Sep 2002, 10:37
- - damann   QUOTE (cydonia @ Sep 26 2002, 01:12)i'm ...   Fri 27 Sep 2002, 03:25
- - cydonia   Well that's encouraging. Glad to know it wo...   Fri 27 Sep 2002, 03:51
- - rickenbacker   Yeah, go on - give in to that urge! I rece...   Fri 27 Sep 2002, 12:10
- - cydonia2   Hey i was wondering, would the logic "big box...   Mon 30 Sep 2002, 18:20
- - Teiwaz   Logic is the program I have chosen over all others...   Fri 1 Nov 2002, 20:03
- - Teiwaz   Oh yes, I almost forgot. Buying Logic 5x is an in...   Sun 3 Nov 2002, 01:12
- - Presto   Teiwaz - Just a point: PT comes free with digi equ...   Sun 3 Nov 2002, 14:15
- - damann   surely it's good that these forums can give re...   Tue 5 Nov 2002, 17:05
- - Presto   I've already said more on this subject in repl...   Tue 5 Nov 2002, 17:34
- - Stuartpa   Hey Guys I use PTHD, and really don't mind the...   Wed 6 Nov 2002, 16:07
- - Teiwaz   Hi Stuartpa. That's exactly how I felt when I ...   Wed 6 Nov 2002, 19:04
- - damann   can i just add that originally, apogee used to pro...   Thu 7 Nov 2002, 01:52


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