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As Steve said, it won't be nothing like that. The universal FAT binaries will run on both x86 and PPC architecture, and Rosetta will make PPC binaries run on x86 machines in a totally transparent way.


But as lepetitmartien said:

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A side note on rosetta, the emulator of PPC code to run on x86 (from Apple developer documentation):

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Rosetta is designed to translate currently shipping applications that run on a PowerPC with a G3 processor and that are built for Mac OS X. Rosetta does not run the following:
- Applications built for Mac OS 8 or 9
- Code written specifically for AltiVec
- Code that inserts preferences in the System Preferences pane
- Applications that require a G4 or G5 processor
- Applications that depend on one or more kernel extensions
- Kernel extensions
- Bundled Java applications or Java applications with JNI libraries that can’t be translated

So recent apps will need either the universal code or the x86 only to run. ESPECIALLY OURS.


Just as we couldn't run OS9 music apps under Classic in OSX, we won't be able to run OSX PPC music apps under Rosetta in OSXwintel. We will have to upgrade again, and wait for softdevs to make "Rosetta-carbonized" versions.

I see this over the coming 5 years as being a very bad experience. After that, after mac has settled down into a stabile platform, it might be a good thing. But then again, maybe we will have to make another transition at that time. angry.gif

Now it seems like a better solution to make apple into a software company, and drop the hardware. Make OSX run on any x86 box, then at least we as users will not be forced into the whimsyness af apple and partners. That is acceptable and a bit fun, having a closed intel box not knowing when the next transition will come is not.
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- news   Apple goes Intel. Why?   Mon 6 Jun 2005, 20:42
- - BobbiStyle   Hi Peeps Had a Mac since 1987. Always for Muzak.....   Mon 6 Jun 2005, 20:42
- - vaal   Everyone needs to relax, it's going to be just...   Mon 6 Jun 2005, 21:07
- - BobbiStyle   Hi Vaal I agree about the IBM "lack", w...   Mon 6 Jun 2005, 21:24
- - maxryzone   can someone explain in clear terms what this all m...   Mon 6 Jun 2005, 21:31
- - vaal   No, absolutely nothing is wasted, it won't aff...   Mon 6 Jun 2005, 22:12
- - Jsegura   Apple cannot marry with anybody. If IBM, that by t...   Mon 6 Jun 2005, 23:02
- - lepetitmartien   I didn't put everything into the news, I tried...   Mon 6 Jun 2005, 23:25
- - indebttome   Let's remember this, as well - although OSX is...   Tue 7 Jun 2005, 00:13
- - abcdaniel   this is CRAP! Longevity, come on! it won...   Tue 7 Jun 2005, 00:15
- - lepetitmartien   Just wrote something really stupid, it'll run ...   Tue 7 Jun 2005, 00:19
- - abcdaniel   Yeah, really, f*** it. New versions, new versions,...   Tue 7 Jun 2005, 06:05
- - vaal   QUOTE (abcdaniel @ Jun 7 2005, 00:05)At this ...   Tue 7 Jun 2005, 08:30
- - abcdaniel   Isn't mr Steve known for being a bit** to work...   Tue 7 Jun 2005, 10:25
- - coldharbour   Yeah well, at the moment PPC is looking pretty goo...   Tue 7 Jun 2005, 11:27
- - chidders   Er... Am I missing something? When this move to I...   Tue 7 Jun 2005, 12:48
- - coldharbour   QUOTE (abcdaniel @ Jun 7 2005, 11:35)Just as ...   Tue 7 Jun 2005, 13:07
- - vaal   QUOTE (chidders @ Jun 7 2005, 06:48)Er... Am ...   Tue 7 Jun 2005, 14:40
- - abcdaniel   i've might have worked myself up a bit here......   Tue 7 Jun 2005, 18:15
- - lepetitmartien   The big problem we face is altivec, it'll need...   Wed 8 Jun 2005, 00:31
- - coldharbour   QUOTE (lepetitmartien @ Jun 7 2005, 23:31)The...   Wed 8 Jun 2005, 10:36
- - stratology   "- No one will be able to say macs are crap b...   Wed 8 Jun 2005, 17:02
- - lepetitmartien   An interesting article on Ars Technica, not far fr...   Wed 8 Jun 2005, 17:03
- - stratology   Ars Technica was always one of the best sources I ...   Wed 8 Jun 2005, 17:18
- - jeffca   Hey, Guys! If you read between the lines of S...   Wed 8 Jun 2005, 19:15
- - lepetitmartien   It's clear Steve decided that enough was enoug...   Thu 9 Jun 2005, 03:12
- - lepetitmartien   here is the post of a friend on Gaygeeks.org QUOT...   Thu 9 Jun 2005, 19:30
- - lepetitmartien   And Apple posted in its news a link for the column...   Fri 10 Jun 2005, 16:23
- - abcdaniel   Oooh, then maybe OSX will go 64bit! And maybe ...   Sat 11 Jun 2005, 18:53
- - lepetitmartien   Uh, OS X is partly 64 bits, G5 are 64 bits (with a...   Sun 12 Jun 2005, 03:48
- - abcdaniel   Yeah, I at least am approaching the limit where th...   Sun 12 Jun 2005, 08:20
- - lepetitmartien   The 64 bitness of an OS is at multiple levels, OS ...   Mon 13 Jun 2005, 01:39


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