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post Thu 22 Dec 2005, 02:38
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post Thu 22 Dec 2005, 02:38
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Here is the email one of our member received, save the Western union conditions, everything is a lie!
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Dear Customer,

Good news! The following MacMusic Ads on sale is now available for purchase trough our secure MacMusic Insurance Center system:

MacMusic Item :

Fender Stratocaster 1969 Guitar

Best Price :2000.00EURO




Instructions: (please read carefully)

Complete your MacMusic transaction in 5 easy steps:

Buyer and seller agree on the transaction terms and a selling price. Seller contacts MacMusic with the transaction details; MacMusic accepts the transaction and offers purchase protection to the buyer (if the transaction is declined,no further action is required from either the buyer or the seller)
The buyer sends payment and the seller receives it. After the payment cleared, the seller must notify MacMusic.Buyer will send the payment details directly to the seller email address. The seller has three business days to send the buyer and MacMusic the tracking number of the shipment. If no tracking number is provided, a full refund is immediately sent to the buyer;

Buyer receives the merchandise and has ten days to inspect it. If it is complete and as described, the buyer should accept the merchandise.If he refuses the merchandise, the buyer must ship the merchandise back to the seller within three business days. After the inspection period is over,the buyer must contact MacMusic with the result of the inspection. If the buyer refuses the merchandise, the refund will be sent to the buyer
after the tracking number



Attention: Sending the payment by any other method will void this transaction and your right to refund.

Details and instructions of this transaction:

Item insurance policy:

The following item are clear for MacMusic item insurance policy:


Fender Stratocaster 1969 guitar


Seller's verified payment address:
First name: Parker
Last name: Barring
Address: 15 Montague Street
City: London
Zip code:WC1B 5BJ
Country: UK
For more pictures and details about saddle e-mail: parkertab@gmail.com

Next step to be taken: The buyer must send the payment to the seller


Payment instructions:
To submit the payment with Western Union Money Transfer you have the following option:
Pay for the transfer with cash at a local Western Union agent.
Click here to locate the agents in your area :
http://www.westernunion.com/info/agentInquiryIntl.asp
However, Western Union Money Transfer is designed

Because the fee to send a Western Union Money Transfer is high,compared to
other methods of payment, we have arranged with the seller to compensate for
half of this fee (i.e. if it costs you 100EUR to send the payment, take 50EUR from the amount insured and send the balance).

Once the payment was sent, email the seller with the following information :
1) 10 digit MTCN (Western Union Money Transfer Control Number):
2) Exact sender's name on file with Western Union:
3) Your street address on file with Western Union:
4) City and country where you sent the money from:
5) Amount sent:
Then wait for the confirmation the payment was received. Within 3 business days, you will receive the tracking number for your merchandise.


Purchase protection and refund:
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Currently, this seller has a 5,000.00EUR deposit in an MacMusic managed purchase protection account. T

The account is managed by MacMusic Insurance Center .

This transaction is supervised by MacMusic Insurance Center  team.


***CONDITIONS TO BE MET BEFORE YOU MAY ASK FOR A REFUND
Here are the situations suitable for a refund request:
1) If the item doesn't arrive and/or the seller stops communications after the payment was received;
2) If the merchandise you receive has different specifications than the ones you agreed on;
3) If your merchandise arrives in a much longer period than the one you agreed on (more than 15 days from the payment clearance day);
For cases 2) and 3) you have to send back the merchandise to the seller prior to ask for your refund. If you did not pay the seller by the required payment method, your refund request would be declined.


Important Usage Guidelines:
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1. The contact information should only be used for resolving matters related
to MacMusic Any other use is strictly prohibited.
2. This transaction is protected by MacMusic services such as insurance and dispute resolution.
3. You may buy and sell with confidence in all transactions with this MacMusic member.
4. If you need to dispute this transaction, keep the transaction number at hand when contacting MacMusic. Any complaints must be filed within 30 days from the verification date.
This e-mail message was sent to you from MacMusic Insurance Center team, with
the full support of the MacMusic SquareTrade center.The seller was informed about this transaction being started and is awaiting your payment. It is recommended to send the payment as soon as possible, because your purchase protection is valid for 30 days only.If you encounter any problems with


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wroyj
post Thu 22 Dec 2005, 10:02
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this is the same scam that happens on "craig's list" , i've put items up
on craigs list and these guys have an automated system, and they
hammer you as soon as the item is listed - for me i generally only
do busines "eye to eye", a hand shake , cash and carry,
"as is", - if it works when you pick it up, then when you take it home
you own it.

but thanks for the heads up,

*wroy()
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beyaRecords
post Thu 22 Dec 2005, 10:19
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As a rule of thumb I never do any business which has Western Union in the chain!

Beya
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Jibreel
post Fri 23 Dec 2005, 17:01
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QUOTE (beyaRecords @ Dec 22 2005, 09:19)
As a rule of thumb I never do any business which has Western Union in the chain!

Beya

hey i agree to that as well, but you aint gonna find better stuff to buy and or faster ways to sell in europe then here., unless you want to deal with ebay.

in France UPS used to allow us to pay via check and they would handle delivery and money, now they stopped it.

i never had a problem buying things online, but once i sold a effects rack and forgot to put the powercord inside and the guy was like calling me about it but it was no big deal, a honest mistake.

as of online scams, the worst is this one where a guy wants to buy something from you but offers these checks for twice the amount, and they cheat you and the bank.

So as far as i see this, the mac music classifieds have been great cause other sites have horrible stories compared to this site.
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