Waves 5 Au Plgs In Logic Express 7, baas sound quality in master out bus. Options

[BobbiStyle]

Hi peeps

Just been messing with Waves 5 demo's in Logic Express 7 and had a big shock. They sound awful! In the ProTools TDM rig they seem fine as RTAS/TDM's (24MX plus with PT 6.4.) but as AU's in Logic in a none TDM rig, terrible!

I have a feeling that Logic Express has some kind of Limiter algorithm in the master out... Anyone else had this? (Can't even push past -3db in L1 with out severe distortion.)

Even tried it with the Logic "Demo" song... same thing...
Yours
Bobbi

This post has been edited by BobbiStyle: Sun 13 Feb 2005, 20:10

[allears]

I dont know about logic express but I do know that my Platinum bundle in Logic Pro sounds amazing and I use L3 every day and can crush the hell out of my signal without running into distortion problems

[gdoubleyou]

They work fine, but if you overload a channel before the master out it will result in distortion, sorta like overloading the preamp on a guitar amp to produce distortion.

[BobbiStyle]

Made sure the channels were not overloading, as I said, even tried it on the "demo" song too.

Not sure why it's doing it. Especially as on both the 002 Digi RTAS setup and in the HD3 TDM setup as RTAS or TDM plugs they don't do this at all, only as AU plugs within Logic 7....

Frustrating but can use in ProTools for now...
sigh...

Many thx guys for the comments. :-D
Bobbi

[gdoubleyou]

What happens if you substitute the Apple limiter AU?

I've been loving Finalis from Elemental Audio Lately in combination with their Neodynum plug.

http://www.elementalaudio.com

[chappy]

Hey Bobbi,
Chap here. I have 3 PT rigs and will check it out on my Digi 002 rack and MBox for you. i have the Diamond bundle but I'm hooked on TDM and haven't been able to play with the other systems as much. I'm updating my HD system to Accell and dropping it onto a dual 2.5 G5 w/6 gig of ram. So far the Waves AU work great in both Logic Pro and PTLE. I don't like multiband compression so I haven't even tried the L3 but I will. Right now, I'm running the LE stuff on a laptop but I will
admit that the latency issues bother me and the 'native' limitations bug me too.
What a spoiled TDM brat I've become.
It pisses me off that the G5 only comes with 3 pci slots. It's forcing me to abandon
scuzzy drives (I have about 15) and rely on firewire which always disappoints me.
SCSI has been so fast and reliable. An external chasis is $2000 and that's just too much to pay and too noisey.
I'll report back sir!
best,
chap