 Apogee Duet?, Question - what to purchase for Logic Studio/iMac |
 Fri 19 Oct 2007, 23:05
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 10 Joined: 11-Jun 03 From: Kingsland - US Member No.: 19,497  |
Hello....
I will be running Logic Studio on iMac 20" 2.16. Korg keyboard, Kirtzweil Micro Piano, and possibly the Yamaha Drum machine. Has anyone had experience with Logic Studio and Apogee Duet? The Duet does not have faders... looks like a knob.. Apple says it is designed for Logic... I am also looking at PreSonus Firebox with Alpha Track USB controller.. Will appreciate your ideas. Also... What firewire external Hard drive is the Best for audio production on the iMac? (Firewire, 7200, size GB? manufacturer?) Thanks, sounds2me -------------------- [FONT=Impact][SIZE=4]
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Sat 20 Oct 2007, 15:14
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 Advanced Member  Group: Members Posts: 348 Joined: 10-Feb 06 From: Hamburg - DE Member No.: 76,633 |
Dear "sounds2me",
Sounds like a nice set-up. Can't say I've seen your configuration discussed, Logic Studio and Apogee Duet? Apogee Duet.?! If Apogee makes it, it's good, and it does work with Mac. I just "Googled" the Apogee Duet. Awesome. Sounds like a winning set-up. All you need now is time to become acquainted with Logic Studio and play good music. Final question, this is a "Dream Wish Gear Thing" you don't actually have any of this? Hence, you asked if anyone knew if, how and why, it could, should work? Right? I really can't recall seeing your situation mentioned here. I know I'll be corrected if wrong. Your "Dream Wish Gear Thing" sound like it will do the job for sure. Let us know what happens. Be sharp, don't Bb. |
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Sun 21 Oct 2007, 04:08
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 Moderator In Chief (MIC)  Group: Editors Posts: 15,189 Joined: 23-Dec 01 From: Paris - FR Member No.: 2,758 |
For the hard drive have a look in the hard drive sub forum, there's things to read.
The Duet has nice converters from the first users. -------------------- Our Classifeds • Nos petites annonces • Terms Of Service / Conditions d'Utilisation • Forum Rules / Règles des Forums • MacMusic.Org & SETI@Home
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Sun 21 Oct 2007, 15:32
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 10 Joined: 11-Jun 03 From: Kingsland - US Member No.: 19,497 |
QUOTE (Mac Daddy @ Sat 20 Oct 2007, 09:14)  Dear "sounds2me", Sounds like a nice set-up. Can't say I've seen your configuration discussed, Logic Studio and Apogee Duet? Apogee Duet.?! If Apogee makes it, it's good, and it does work with Mac. I just "Googled" the Apogee Duet. Awesome. Sounds like a winning set-up. All you need now is time to become acquainted with Logic Studio and play good music. Final question, this is a "Dream Wish Gear Thing" you don't actually have any of this? Hence, you asked if anyone knew if, how and why, it could, should work? Right? I really can't recall seeing your situation mentioned here. I know I'll be corrected if wrong. Your "Dream Wish Gear Thing" sound like it will do the job for sure. Let us know what happens. Be sharp, don't Bb. ----------------------------------------------------- Hi Mac Daddy.. Thanks for your reply. I own 20 iMac, Logic Studio, Korg, Micro Piano and drum machine.. Also, I have on order the FireBox and AlphaTrack... Just discovered Apogee Duet.. and wondered if that would be a better purchase. Thanks QUOTE (lepetitmartien @ Sat 20 Oct 2007, 22:08) For the hard drive have a look in the hard drive sub forum, there's things to read. The Duet has nice converters from the first users. ------------------------------- Dear Lepetitmartien Thank you for your reply. I read the forum on firewire Hard Drives.. The Glyph 320 with Oxford bridge and 16mb...seems to be the best one for my needs. Also, I am a 1st user... I have FireBox and AlphaTrack on order... However, since discovering Apogee Duet I wonder if iDuet would be a better choice..? Thank you, sounds2me -------------------- [FONT=Impact][SIZE=4]
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Sun 21 Oct 2007, 19:18
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 Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 479 Joined: 08-May 05 From: Portland - US Member No.: 65,373 |
ANYTHING Apogee makes is generally top notch. www.pacificproaudio.com has some very reasonably priced FW drives that are made specifically for audio recording (much cheaper than Glyph drives and work just as well).
Good Luck! www.myspace.com/mortal_engines |
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Sun 21 Oct 2007, 19:51
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 10 Joined: 11-Jun 03 From: Kingsland - US Member No.: 19,497 |
QUOTE (mortalengines @ Sun 21 Oct 2007, 13:18) ANYTHING Apogee makes is generally top notch. www.pacificproaudio.com has some very reasonably priced FW drives that are made specifically for audio recording (much cheaper than Glyph drives and work just as well). Good Luck! www.myspace.com/mortal_engines -------------- Thanks for this website looks like a really good HD.. sounds2me -------------------- [FONT=Impact][SIZE=4]
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Mon 22 Oct 2007, 17:05
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 348 Joined: 10-Feb 06 From: Hamburg - DE Member No.: 76,633 |
Dear Members,
Just got the latest issue of Sound On Sound. They are featuring 'Apple Logic 8'. Price, £319. No XS Key is required. Only a serial number. Comes with 10 DVD's. Installation can take over a hour. Pros: Intuitive single-window interface makes Logic easier and faster to use. Improved mixer and audio engine, with better surrond support annd the ability to record busses internally. Many long-standing issues heve been addressed such as sample-accurate region editing. Cons: Many long standing issues still haven't been addressed such as the tick-based MIDI delays and the lack of full support for Macs with more than two processing cores. MIDI functionality has stayed much the same, with no improved editing for composing music. Surrond functionality has improved, but is still lagging behind some of the competiton. Summary: Logic Pro 8 is a significent achievement. It makes advanced music production tools accessible, both in terms of features and price, without alienating exsisting users. Never thought I would leave Logic 5. Then I said the same for 6 and 7. Looks like I will be making the move to 8. It's the move to 10.4.9 or later that I'm concerned about. Too much info for this Post and my weak typing. For full details, go to soundonsound.com |
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Mon 22 Oct 2007, 19:44
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 1 Joined: 02-Mar 03 From: New York - US Member No.: 13,473 |
Hi guys! First post, I think.
I am loving my new Duet (4 days old)! It's flawless, in combination with Logic Studio, the PreSonus FaderPort and a whopping 200gb FW800 external drive. All my Logic Studio sessions sound wonderful, the stereo mix is a lot clearer and distinct than my old M-Audio box. Works very well with Studio and I figured out Maestro's control panel so it's all good there as well. The mic pres are pretty clear and there's a lot of gain. If you don't push the gain into the stratosphere, the noise level is eminently usable. I found using more than 50db (for ribbon mics, as an example) was a bit noisier than I liked. I started having to think about applying noise reduction, which is something I try to avoid. So for most stuff, I find Duet amazing. With a really good outboard preamp matched to your mics, Duet is nothing less than astonishing. When they make a similar multi-channel device that is portable (maybe a 'Symphony Mobile/Octet'-style device, I'll be in line to buy one. Here's a link to some of my music for those who may be interested: http://www.icompositions.com/artists/mickazoid This post has been edited by mickazoid: Mon 22 Oct 2007, 20:01 |
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Tue 23 Oct 2007, 16:05
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 Member Group: Members Posts: 96 Joined: 14-May 05 From: Caracas - VE Member No.: 65,694 |
Hi:
Regarding Logic Studio 8....I have mine resting on a table until I spare some time between proyects...It is kind of install-panic......But it will come and for sure, it would be great (I hope...). Talking about Duet.... I don´t know....all those cable hanging around with lots of female connectors from older days.....that little multipin al the back, remembering Adats.....and it is no a cheap device...US$ 495,00... ! Maybe the new TC Electronic´s Konnekt Live could be a better choice..... No doubt that there is a reputation when we think in Apogee.....But I´m still not so convinced.....or articulated... I just wish that the guy with the FW410 problem could solve it and make music in peace.. |
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Wed 24 Oct 2007, 04:37
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Moderator In Chief (MIC) Group: Editors Posts: 15,189 Joined: 23-Dec 01 From: Paris - FR Member No.: 2,758 |
It's not just a reputation, there's better converters but… price then is one of a Space Shuttle, and Apogee itself is not cheap. In fact it's the first time Apogee makes a converter for the rest of us without you having to pay the extra price for the brand name. Now, Apogee has this reputation of being b…y good for a reason: very good converters, and very good controlling clocks. If something is to say against them, it's sometimes you can wonder if they think people using their high end converters should have a rocket science doctorate to survive the menus and settings…
To bring to an accessible price level such product has been a great move from them, now if you want it you can have Apogee sound and it's a good thing! 
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Wed 24 Oct 2007, 05:05
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 479 Joined: 08-May 05 From: Portland - US Member No.: 65,373 |
QUOTE (lepetitmartien @ Wed 24 Oct 2007, 03:37) It's not just a reputation, there's better converters but… price then is one of a Space Shuttle, and Apogee itself is not cheap. In fact it's the first time Apogee makes a converter for the rest of us without you having to pay the extra price for the brand name. Now, Apogee has this reputation of being b…y good for a reason: very good converters, and very good controlling clocks. If something is to say against them, it's sometimes you can wonder if they think people using their high end converters should have a rocket science doctorate to survive the menus and settings… To bring to an accessible price level such product has been a great move from them, now if you want it you can have Apogee sound and it's a good thing! Amen! As far as I can tell Logic and Apogee are working together to offer a real native alternative to Pro Tools (uck!). I read a review in Tape Op magazine that compared Logic 7 mixes with the Apogee Ensemble and Pro Tools HD mixes. The Logic/Apogee mixes were just as good and the package was somewhere around 6500 dollars less. Hmmmmm...... |
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Sun 26 Oct 2008, 17:36
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 4 Joined: 26-Oct 08 From: Tinstown Member No.: 104,398 |
Sorry to intrude (I am a very new member) but I do have a couple of things I can say about Duet:
1) If you have a FW800 disk or anything else on the FW800 port (I have iMac24) Duet may not work very well if connected to the FW400 port - apparently 800 and 400 share the bus ... I found it worked well when I daisy chained it to the FW400 PORT on my FW800 Disk. 2) It seems that Duet or its drivers my have memory leaks - I find that after a couple of hours the Duet's output starts to stutter and give out all kinds of unpleasant noises. Rebooting the computer fixes the problems. I only have 2GB RAM. |
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Mon 27 Oct 2008, 02:52
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Moderator In Chief (MIC) Group: Editors Posts: 15,189 Joined: 23-Dec 01 From: Paris - FR Member No.: 2,758 |
Never heard of these memory issues before, you're using the Duet with what software? There' the Due and there's the host…
I'd like to know too if someone had a go at aggregating 2 or more Duets… -------------------- Our Classifeds • Nos petites annonces • Terms Of Service / Conditions d'Utilisation • Forum Rules / Règles des Forums • MacMusic.Org & SETI@Home
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Mon 27 Oct 2008, 07:13
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 479 Joined: 08-May 05 From: Portland - US Member No.: 65,373 |
I haven't noticed this with my Macbook Pro. I have a Firewire hard drive on my 800 port and the Duet on the 400 port. I generally record with Ableton Live. It has been relatively trouble free to operate.
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Mon 27 Oct 2008, 09:25
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 4 Joined: 26-Oct 08 From: Tinstown Member No.: 104,398 |
Citation (lepetitmartien @ lun 27 oct 2008, 02:52) Never heard of these memory issues before, you're using the Duet with what software? There' the Due and there's the host… ... This happens even if I use Maestro only (like listening to iTunes). I also use Logic Express 8. The port suggestion came directly from Apogee support. |
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Wed 2 Jan 2013, 23:05
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 1 Joined: 02-Jan 13 From: Bagnolet - FR Member No.: 121,850 |
hello, i know it's a bit late but i recovered a Duet Firewire and i'm looking for the first driver /Installer (from 2007, no the update from 2009) the guys from Apogee are taking ages in reply me, if one days they does. if someone could upload this driver in a cloud .. ! THANKS
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Wed 28 May 2014, 17:29
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 2 Joined: 27-May 14 Member No.: 123,933 |
recently updated to mavericks
still have firewire duet but now midi encoder is no longer supported - bummer 
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Thu 29 May 2014, 15:13
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 Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 246 Joined: 06-Feb 07 From: Berkeley - US Member No.: 88,124 |
bummer. have you installed the most recent driver?
http://www.apogeedigital.com/support/duet-2 |
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Sun 1 Jun 2014, 15:03
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 2 Joined: 27-May 14 Member No.: 123,933 |
QUOTE (houstonmusic @ Thu 29 May 2014, 15:13) bummer. have you installed the most recent driver? http://www.apogeedigital.com/support/duet-2 yes - i have the duet firewire though, not duet 2. 
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Wed 4 Jun 2014, 16:57
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 246 Joined: 06-Feb 07 From: Berkeley - US Member No.: 88,124 |
oops. i see.
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