 Logic Pro 8?, Does anyone have a bit of info? |
 Fri 9 Feb 2007, 14:35
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Hey guys,
With Pro Tools updating it's software at a rapid rate - does anyone know whether we can expect a big advancement in Logic Pro? Please let me know! Mike |
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Fri 9 Feb 2007, 18:02
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Rookie  Group: Members Posts: 33 Joined: 02-Oct 06 Member No.: 83,805 |
QUOTE (mikenienaber @ Fri 9 Feb 2007, 14:35)  Hey guys, With Pro Tools updating it's software at a rapid rate - does anyone know whether we can expect a big advancement in Logic Pro? Please let me know! Mike (Please excuse my hijack Mike) Yes - I agree! I have used Logic for over 7 years now. I stopped upgrading after Logic Pro 7.1.1 - I am a avid Pro Tools user for my film work but would love to carry on using Logic for music (and possibly film if they sort out the sticky crappy automation) BUT this is down to what the upgrade will consist of, not the amount of new plug-ins - I am looking for a plug in quality upgrade in Logic. Also now with Pro Tools letting you add as many QT movies as you want in a session that'll be a good move for Logic users also. Anyway here's hoping! Lee |
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Sat 10 Feb 2007, 15:28
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 Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 145 Joined: 24-Apr 04 From: Knoxville - US Member No.: 41,728 |
I was thrilled to see this topic come up!
 Logic Pro is in DESPERATE need of an upgrade. I have alluded to this in previous posts, but it absolutely does not sit well with me that Apple is still selling a 32-bit native program to be used in 64-bit machines. The fact is, Logic does not recognize all the power in the new computers, and so many errors continue to plague us that should not be. Apple is very hush-hush about this, however, and if you call their tech support to complain about the hardware problems, they will re-direct your questions every time and claim that you are having a software issue. Then they proceed to try to make you buy a software tech support session for some outrageous sum. Moral: never rely on Apple Tech Support. I've never gotten any good information from them. MacMusic is the best place to solve your Mac Audio problems. This site is populated with pure genius, and I'm fortunate to have discovered it. Does anyone know anybody at Apple who can tell us for sure if an upgrade is coming? HaHaWorld |
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 Sat 10 Feb 2007, 17:58
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 Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 249 Joined: 21-Feb 03 From: Providence - US Member No.: 12,850 |
QUOTE (hahaworld @ Sat 10 Feb 2007, 10:28) I was thrilled to see this topic come up! Does anyone know anybody at Apple who can tell us for sure if an upgrade is coming? HaHaWorld Well, there are some people over at sonikmatter that claim to know that apple is indeed working on logic. They don't know or can't or won't say anything about what, when, where, why, who, how or in what century anything will be released, probably due to Apple's somewhat insane absolute secrecy policy, but I guess there is hope (I hope). I'm still using Logic 6.4, and now I'm holding out until 8 is released. Don't want another repeat of what happened when I bought 6.4 (logic 7 came out a month later and there was no upgrade discount for recent purchasers). I hope logic 8 kicks some serious rump and fills in the holes that are still in 7. I agree - it does not need more plugins or apple-loops. I couldn't care less these things, since I like to build my own instruments and FX in Max/MSP. I just want something that works and works well and works predictably and is a breeze to use. Until then, thankfully, except for a few small and avoidable caveats, Logic 6.4 works fine in Tiger. -------------------- -Arvid •• Squish the Squid Productions, Modest Machine
•• digitally augmented trumpet, TOOB, flugelhorn, cracklebox, percussicube, no-input-mixers and Macbook Pro, 2.4 GHz 15", MacOS 10.5, MOTU Ultralite, Logic Studio 9, MaxMSP 5, JackOSX •• •• Electronic-experimental, jazz, digital instrument design, electronics, unique software and performance.•• |
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Sat 10 Feb 2007, 18:46
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 249 Joined: 21-Feb 03 From: Providence - US Member No.: 12,850 |
-------------------- -Arvid •• Squish the Squid Productions, Modest Machine
•• digitally augmented trumpet, TOOB, flugelhorn, cracklebox, percussicube, no-input-mixers and Macbook Pro, 2.4 GHz 15", MacOS 10.5, MOTU Ultralite, Logic Studio 9, MaxMSP 5, JackOSX •• •• Electronic-experimental, jazz, digital instrument design, electronics, unique software and performance.•• |
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Mon 12 Feb 2007, 14:51
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 9 Joined: 23-Jan 06 From: Cape Town - ZA Member No.: 75,734 |
Hey guys,
Thanks for your enthusiastic posts - although I knew that with Apple's secrecy, if I hadn't been bombarded by insane marketing campaigns about the new Logic, then probably no one knew anything! HAHA Well, I've been using PT for a long time now only for film post coz I cannot get round to composing in it. It really is such a sterile environment I can't get excited about using it. I enjoy messing around with Acid 4.0 more than PT - Ive read all about logic and the manual and how awesome it is to compose in so I think I'm going to wait til something 'grand' comes out. Thanks again guys! Mike |
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Mon 12 Feb 2007, 19:53
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Rookie Group: Members Posts: 33 Joined: 02-Oct 06 Member No.: 83,805 |
QUOTE (mikenienaber @ Mon 12 Feb 2007, 15:51) Hey guys, Thanks for your enthusiastic posts - although I knew that with Apple's secrecy, if I hadn't been bombarded by insane marketing campaigns about the new Logic, then probably no one knew anything! HAHA Well, I've been using PT for a long time now only for film post coz I cannot get round to composing in it. It really is such a sterile environment I can't get excited about using it. I enjoy messing around with Acid 4.0 more than PT - Ive read all about logic and the manual and how awesome it is to compose in so I think I'm going to wait til something 'grand' comes out. Thanks again guys! Mike For composition your exactly right. Logic is great! PT is dull but it's automation power and a few other things make up for the ancient interface! soon Logic soon!!! |
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Tue 13 Feb 2007, 18:21
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 14 Joined: 31-Mar 04 From: Johannesburg - ZA Member No.: 39,861 |
Funny......I've been using Logic since version2.0 in 1995
Every new release has been better and if I'd waited for v3 or v4 or v5, I'd still be using an Atari!! My 5c worth: If you think Logic will help your creativity and give your music a better sound, just get it now. Sure it can could have more features but so could every other app in the known universe. I'd also like to see more fixes and focus on stability rather than some flashy new synth plugin that ships with Logic 8. But hey, I manage to create broadcast-quality music in Logic all the time. It just gets better.... Regards - Colin |
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Tue 13 Feb 2007, 18:51
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 Newbie Group: Members Posts: 8 Joined: 03-Jun 03 From: Helsinki - FI Member No.: 19,033 |
Logic 8 is coming out this spring or at least summer. Guess they've been waiting for Leopard - can't wait the revised GUI and stuff.
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Wed 14 Feb 2007, 06:36
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 Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 479 Joined: 08-May 05 From: Portland - US Member No.: 65,373 |
Logic (as with all software out there) has a VERY reasonable upgrade price once you shell out the initial big bucks so if you are in a hurry to get on board there is no reason not to do so now. For what it's worth, it often helps to wait for just a little bit after the initial update for the programmers to fix all the bugs....For example 8.01 will probably work much better than 8.0.
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Wed 14 Feb 2007, 19:10
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 18 Joined: 10-Jan 05 From: Los Angeles - US Member No.: 58,131 |
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I'd also like to see more fixes and focus on stability rather than some flashy new synth plugin that ships with Logic 8. Man, come on! I've been a faithful Logic user since it's early days as Notator on Atari. First of all, Logic has come a long way; and it IS the best DAW on the market for producing music in any way that u may desire; BUT many amazing software programs such as Ableton Live are offering more creative options by which we can create music. Fixes and focus on stability is important; but I think Logic 7.2 has seen Logic working at it's best (thanks to FINALLY fixing the stability of REWIRE). I personally WOULD like to see more "flashy new synth plugins" amonst other things, a desperately needed overhaul on Guitar Amp Pro, even an overhaul on the sonic quality of EVP88 and EVD6 wouldn't be a bad idea now. Time stretching and / or pitch shift on the fly. Can we get a Logic AU plugin that functions like Prosoniq's Ambisone for more control over the placement sounds in the "3-d stereo" field. 5.1 mixing plugins!!! I think a lot of us would looooove to see that. We as faithful users should WANT to see more progressive things happen with this software... not JUST stability fixes in a Logic Pro 8 uprgade. We've waited long enough for it already! PS Thanks for that info jannop... I hope it's true. |
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Sat 17 Feb 2007, 08:05
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 11 Joined: 09-Oct 06 From: San Francisco - US Member No.: 84,034 |
QUOTE (hahaworld @ Sat 10 Feb 2007, 15:28) I was thrilled to see this topic come up! Logic Pro is in DESPERATE need of an upgrade. I have alluded to this in previous posts, but it absolutely does not sit well with me that Apple is still selling a 32-bit native program to be used in 64-bit machines. The fact is, Logic does not recognize all the power in the new computers, and so many errors continue to plague us that should not be. Apple is very hush-hush about this, however, and if you call their tech support to complain about the hardware problems, they will re-direct your questions every time and claim that you are having a software issue. Then they proceed to try to make you buy a software tech support session for some outrageous sum. Moral: never rely on Apple Tech Support. I've never gotten any good information from them. MacMusic is the best place to solve your Mac Audio problems. This site is populated with pure genius, and I'm fortunate to have discovered it. Does anyone know anybody at Apple who can tell us for sure if an upgrade is coming? HaHaWorld What exactly do you know? How could anyone who isn't a programmer know what is going on under the hood in an app like Logic? I was at NAMM last year and spoke to an engineer about 64 bit. The #1 reason to go 64 bit is the ability to address huge amounts of RAM. I think Logic supports up to 16GB of RAM. I think that's plenty. Other than this he said the performance gains are totally nominal and more of a myth. Anyone here actually a programmer who knows? I'd love for someone with real expertise to chime in! As for Apple tech support. I believe they have different levels of support. I think they offer top end support for $$$, but you can get free support for some period as a new user. Apple is more like DIgidesin in this way. They make professionals users pay for long-term support. If you are running a studio - you can't afford down time, so for some pros this type of service is a bargain. http://www.apple.com/support/products/proaudio.html I guess you have alternatives.. other companies have lifetime support for thier products, but never answer the phone or keep you on hold for an hour. At least Apple picks up the phone. :-) Well, in all seriousness, most of the small companies do pretty well. Sometimes you even get a programmer on the phone who really KNOWs! I'm sure I'd never get that at a big company like Apple or Digi. Anyhow, your point about getting support on forums is absoutely bang on. I never get better support from the companies who make the software. Just how it goes.. well, actually, i should admit, I've never purchased an expensive service contract from Apple or Digi, so i don't know how the 'others' live. /rant off |
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Tue 20 Feb 2007, 14:13
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 Tikophobe forever…  Group: Team Posts: 6,651 Joined: 08-Feb 03 From: Fontaine Daniel - FR Member No.: 11,773 |
The last news on Logic 8 are on the french version of 440Forums :
- The name Logic is over. Apple want a new name for a totally new DAW. This new software works only with Léopard. - Most of rumours speaks on a software with a new interface based on a large multi-touch display that lets you control everything using only your fingers, like the iPhone. - This new DAW have 30 virtuals instruments and shoud be come with Léopard and the new version of the iLife suite. 
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Tue 20 Mar 2007, 13:07
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 8 Joined: 07-Feb 04 From: Bremgarten AG - CH Member No.: 35,211 |
I think if you want to see what Logic 8 (or whatever Apple chooses to call it), take a look at Soundtrack Pro from Apple. There you will see:
- a totally revamped user interface - all the effects are there (no surprise as they are all audio units, and Apple knows a thing or two about software architecture and reuse of components) - an enhanced assets browser What is missing is the Midi capability and therefore also the syths. The rumored multi-touch surface IMHO will be an option as Apple cannot expect that all users of Logic will purchase also a new control surface. That's my 2c |
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