Bouncing, with MIDI files Options

[Vissequ]

Hello,

I'm using Logic Express 7, and I am a complete novice, this is my 5th hour of owning it.

I have 4 MIDI tracks that I have recorded and would like to convert to an MP3 file.
I have created a track and set it to Output 1-2.

I then go to FILE > BOUNCE and set all the options accordingly. The MP3 file is then created with the correct seconds and file name, but I hear no sound. I also see no activity in my panels when I have the Output 1-2 track selected. I know I'm doing something wrong, or forgetting to do something. What else do I have to do?

[Chalexfor]

im really lost here too. how do you get midi to convert?

[Synthetic]

ok... I am not using that new version of Logic so I may be limited on help but... the midi will produce no sound unless the midi tracks are routed to a virtual instrument or plugin that is a sound module. Then that plugin must be bussed to output channels of 1-2. If your midi is not connected to any sound module... it is just data and not actually sound so this could be why you have no sound when bouncing.

Describe your setup a little more and how you got the midi into Logic and what the midi is routed to and this may help others help you more

[Synthetic]

and if you are using freeze... I think you must setup an audio track in the environment and route the sound module sound to that track instead of outputs 1-2 but this is my guess since my version doesn't offer this yet

[Chalexfor]

im using a m audio o2 midi controller into my usb port. can you maybe go through a step by step on how to route the midi to a sound module or whatever. i really have no idea what im doing. thanks

[Synthetic]

I could try to explain it but... since I am not able to run Logic right now... would be hard to describe. You should find all the info needed in the manual though. Maybe do a search on the net for the info as well. Its tough to explain without visual aids really but maybe someone here using Logic currently can give it a shot

[Vissequ]

I'm running a M-Audio Keystation 61es MIDI Controller via USB into my iMac. In my enviornment I am mapping Port 1 (Channel 1) to QuickTime Synth which I create. I have 5 MIDI tracks using built in virtual instruments. I go to bounce, properly set it to the correct amount of measures, select MP3, and attempt to bounce it in real time. It goes through creating the file while I hear the MIDI instruments playing properly. At the end it saves it as an MP3. I then load it from my desktop with QuickTime and I have a working MP3 file that plays, but I hear nothing. My music teacher tried to help, but he doesn't use Logic. He just called me after talking to a friend and informed me that it has something to do with "ReWire in the Enviornment". I went in to the enviornment and mapped ReWire to Port 1, but that didn't do anything different. Any ideas?

This post has been edited by Vissequ: Tue 11 Jan 2005, 05:44

[Synthetic]

if you are getting sound from your virtual instruments... I doubt its a midi related issue. it just seems like there is something not set right in the audio routing (bussing). Try bouncing to .aiff also... mp3 generation means it must do extra processing and maybe something is going wrong there.

all virtual tracks routed to outputs 1-2 right? Bouncing set for those outputs too right? Maybe try to freeze (bouncing plugin sound to a track as audio wave then disable virtual track output) a virtual instrument track and bounce that too and see what is produced.

sorry I can't be of more help

This post has been edited by Synthetic: Tue 11 Jan 2005, 05:58

[Vissequ]

That's the problem. They are not set to Output 1-2. I don't know how to do that. I don't know how to tell Output 1-2 to capture them either.

[Vissequ]

Can anyone who is familiar with Logic tell me how to route my MIDI tracks to Audio Track Output 1-2?

[editbrain]

I am sorry and not trying to be rude, but seems that you need to dive into the manual a little more. the questions you are asking are totally covered.

http://www.apple.com/support/logic/

http://www.emagic.de/support/firstaid/inde...dex.php?lang=EN


There are a couple of links that will have many answers to your questions. You will not have to wait for a reply on the board.
I really don't mind helping anyone who needs help. it just seems that you can do a little diging yourself. you will be happier with the solution when you find it on your own.

happy recording,
editbrain

[Vissequ]

I am sorry and not trying to be rude, but seems that you need to dive into the manual a little more.  the questions you are asking are totally covered.

http://www.apple.com/support/logic/

http://www.emagic.de/support/firstaid/inde...dex.php?lang=EN


There are a couple of links that will have many answers to your questions.  You will not have to wait for a reply on the board.
I really don't mind helping anyone who needs help.  it just seems that you can do a little diging yourself.  you will be happier with the solution when you find it on your own. 

happy recording,
editbrain

Thank you for the links. I have searched throughout the manual, on-screen documentation, and asked around other users, and haven't gotten an answer. I'm currently reading the manual, and I will most likely find it, eventually. But I couldn't on my initial searches.

This post has been edited by Vissequ: Thu 13 Jan 2005, 07:13

[Chalexfor]

can someone please just give a straight forward walkthrough to this. none of the searching payed off. thanks

[kaboombahchuck]

I'll admit that I know nothing of Logic, but I do have an experiment for you to try out while you're waiting for an answer..
In Logic, with your midi tracks, and instruments loaded (in the manner you have explained previously). Add an audio track, select audio in for that track to "internal". Arm the track to record and press play. If you are getting a siglal in the meters, then press stop, the rewind and record, when the song stops, you will have an audio recording of the midi files (theorecitally..). If you do end up with an audio track with the actual sound you want, bounce that to mp3.

[Nels]

editbrain sounds a like a really nice person that has just finally gotten to the core of it......

We must all be willing to spend time with our manuals, tedious as that may be. We must do the google! We must take the time! We must reach that goal!

Vissequ, like editbrain, I don't want to seem rude, but as he said, everything you're inquiring about is right there at your finger tips. All you need do is read and try.....Read and try...and then ...Read and try some more. Do exactly as it says on those pages in the manual and be patient. Take a break now and then. Logic has a big learning curve, but if you do the work, you'll soon be on your way.

Keep this in mind, ...Most of those answers you might read here are in the manual, so why waste precious time here? Why not just read it there?

Sincerely,
Good luck to ya!

[Chalexfor]

i dont mean to be rude either but ive read the manuel and hardly understand it because im not familiar with any of this and that is the reason i have come to this forum....to get help. ive asked for help and i more then appriciate replys but i dont wish to recieve replys telling me that i need to read the manuel..its quite possible that i read the section dealing with this but didnt understand it. so please someone just give me a straightforward answer on how to bounce a project with midi files in it so that the midi becomes audio. thank you

[editbrain]

all you do to bounce your vitural instruments to audio file is:

solo the audio instrument track.
open a track mixer
on the master output push the boucne button at the bottom
answer the questions where to save and other option.

offilne you will not hear the track - much faster
realtime it plays the track while bouncing.

to bounce external midi gear.

connect the output of your midi module to some type of input device.
on an audio track arm it for recording. choose the correct inputs. solo the midi track that triggers the module and choose record.


that is it. that is how you get your midi being internal or external to be audio files.

it is also on page 285 of the manual with full photos, and step by step instruction.

[Alex Skolnick]

I have a problem playing MIDI files on my Virtual PC. I have windows XP installed as the virtual PC on my MAc G5. Midis work perfectly fine on the mac osX but when i try playing it on the virtual PC. It plays at about 1/4th the speed of the real song, and that too sounds all broken up.

How do i set right this problem. I'd be real grateful if someone could help me sort out this problem.

P.S: Increasing the memory available to virtual Pc did NOT work.

[editbrain]

you can't solve the virtual PC problem. you have to remember that you are using more than half your mac resources to run windows on top of it. there is also a ton of latency between the host system and the virtual system. you should just give up and run a windows pc instead of virtual PC.

editbrain

[Chalexfor]

ok so im really dumb. ive been trying to figure this out even after editbrain gave me a step by step on how to change midi to audio. im still clueless. so i have a song completely recorded, some of its audio and then i added midi parts using my midi controller. how can i make it so those midi tracks bounce with the rest of the audio song and end up in the final .wav product or watever. im sorry im so lame but i really dont know what im doing and the manuel is confusing to me. i just need the midi to be audio. thanks guys

[editbrain]

make sure each channels output is pointed to the out 1-2 master on the mixing console in logic. then just hit the bounce button.

if you have extrenal midi. you will have to record it into logic on an audio track.

This post has been edited by editbrain: Mon 7 Feb 2005, 16:58