Problems With Logic Pro And Mbox Options

[APPARATUS]

i just recently bought logic pro 6.4 and installed it. i have a mac G4 power book running panther for the os. i'm trying to use it with my mbox but when i select the core audio driver i get a message that says driver can't be found (-10202). i have the newest version of the digi core audio driver installed. from what i have read i need to set up the digi core audio driver so it can be used with logic. the problem is i don't know were to find this. can anyone help.

thanks,
darren

[arvidtp]

Sure! I got the same hardware/software combo.

Open up "Applications/Digidesign/Digi CoreAudio Manager" and set it to 512 for a buffer size (or 1024 if you really want, but I always use 512 because logic is hella more CPU efficient than Pro Tools LE). Basically make sure your buffer size, as set there, matches that in Logic's Audio drivers.

I also seems to get errors from the Mbox when trying to record in 20/24 bit mode in Logic. Dunno why, but it works when I turn that option off. Too bad for hi def.

The Mbox is still a bit of a drag, but I am a Logic Convert! the Mbox is actually more flexible using Coreaudio than it was with Pro Tools because it can now be multi-client.

Good luck.

[APPARATUS]

see the problem is when i launch logic it says core driver not found. what can i do to fix this. without it i have no audio or audio instruments.

[arvidtp]

Can you use Logic with your built in sound? If not then you have a bigger problem than just the dodgy drivers Digidesign has made for the Mbox.

But if only the Mbox doesn't work, then Just keep switching stuff around and making sure settings match. Also try throwing away preference files for the mbox (not the Pro Tools prefs, but like Digi-setup and whatnot). Because my Mbox used to not keep the right buffer size between uses until I deleted its prefs.

I think Logic will give an error similar to what you have if buffer sizes are mismatched with the Mbox.

Also try starting the Digi Coreaudio setup app and making sure it is connected to the Mbox, then keep it open when starting Logic. If that still doesn't work I would say re-install the mbox drivers. And of course make sure Pro Tools is not running in the background.

Oh, if only Digidesign could make a REAL coreaudio driver for the Mbox...

[peter893]

Try going into you Audio/Midi set up in the OS X utilities folder located in you Application folder.

select default input and default out to the digi driver.
you can leave the system out put to built-in , unless you want system sound comming out of your mbox.

try that, and then come on over to http://www.logicproforums.com and tell me if it worked.

good luck

Peter

[APPARATUS]

thanks for the help but i had already done that and it didn't help. the only thing i can find is that i need to go to the digi core audio setup and add logic as an application. the problem is i don't have the core audio setup or at least it's not where anyone said it will be. this is very frustrating.

[arvidtp]

Oh well then - what version of the Digi Coreaudio do you have? The newest is 6.5.2: multi-client, more stable, and no stupid supported apps list. (You have to download it separate from Pro TOols) If you don't have that, download it and you should be much happier. If you do already have it, then I guess go to the Digi User Forums! They are helpful there.

In the meantime do an Cmd-F search for apps containing "Digi" if you cant find anything.

Good luck with that Mbox.

PS: it helps to put version numbers for everything, not just "newest version" or "most awesome version" or "worst version" or "sausage special version of the day with side of homefries" (This morning was my last day of work at the restaurant this summer!)

This post has been edited by arvidtp: Sun 15 Aug 2004, 19:20

[APPARATUS]

ok i have come to the conclusion that logic will not work with the mbox and that the mbox and all digi products suck ass. as far as the exact versions of my software here it is.

logic pro 6.4.2
core audio driver 6.5.2(i even tried the old driver)
pro tools 6.4
mac osx panther 10.3

i have tried everything and every message board and nothing works. i have uninstalled and reinstalled all the software and nothing works. i think i will sell this piece of shit mbox and get a real sound card.

thanks for the feedback.

[andybolper]

Sometime somebody said me don´t by Mbox and get Motu.
It was the best choice for me
I hope this help you
Andy

[td3k]

Just out of curiosity, does Digi Core Audio work with other apps? (iTunes, ect)
Does ProTools LE 6.4 work properly? Also, is see your previous post says "10.3". is it patched up to 10.3.4 ? Digi Core Audio & PT LE 6.4 requires at least 10.3.2. I don't see what else could be at issue. I use an mBox w/ Logic Express 6.4 nearly every day.

[APPARATUS]

yes i have the most current version of panther, and yes the core audio driver works with other apps. itunes, recycle, peak, quicktime, and pro tools all work fine. oh yeah also reason 2.5 plays through the mbox. only logic will not work. it just say selected driver not found when i choose core audio. i'm pulling my hair out over this. all i wna to do is use logic! i can't find anything on the digi user forums, or logic user forums. no one seems to have an answer for me and i can't fix it myslef. i have tried everything i can think of. thanks for all the replys but i'm am jsut about over this mobx crap. as you can see i'm not a very patient person. hahahaha. i just want it to work is that to much to ask for. it's only with digi products that i have ever had problems like this with. they just don't play well with others.

so did you ever have any problems like this with your mbox? if you have any suggestions that might help me it would be greatly appreciated.

This post has been edited by APPARATUS: Thu 19 Aug 2004, 18:37

[arvidtp]

All I can say is I also regret buying the Mbox. Not a fantastic card to say the least.

[majn]

I had all the above problems with MBox

It turned out I didn't have the latest MBox firmware - once I downloaded this and updated jmy MBOX (best thing to do is download it and try and update it - it'll tell you if it doesn't need updating) then everything worked.

Note - I didn't say everything worked fine - but everything worked.

If your using ProTools then Mbox is a cheap option to learn it with. Using it with Logic has such a high level of latency that it is unuseable. If you really want to use Logic - sell the MBox and buy a half decent sound card.

Cheers

[APPARATUS]

well i know pro tools really really well. i teach audio post production at full sail and work with pro tools hd systems and the pro control. we mix in 5.1 surround. i know logic pretty good but not everything there is to know. even other instructors have never seen this problem. i haven't had a chance to talk to anyone in the midi dept. yet that might could help because i've been on vacation. so i'm going to try the firmware update and see if that fixes it.

thanks,
darren

[td3k]

i teach audio post production at full sail

Right on brother, I see you are out of Orlando, I'm down here in Tampa.
Cheers mate, Hope you didn't get any hurricane damage.

...I am still baffled by the mBox/Logic issue. Have you tried another computer? Another mBox? I'm running out of ideas. Like I said before I use it w/ Logic Express on 2 different computers and the same setup on two of my friends project studio also. (so it is possible)
...I'm heading over there, see you in 45 min.

[td3k]

Aaah, one last idea...

When you run the Logic Setup Assistant, there is that check box for using DAE w/ ProTools and it disables the Core Audio. Run the Logic Setup Assistant and have a look at that. It needs to be Un-Checked. ( I think I had set mine up like that once before and got a core audio error. ) ...Worth a try at least.

[APPARATUS]

ok so i have been looking around and can't seem to find how to run the setup assistant. what menu is it under? i know where to go to select your driver and interface. i don't have dae checked as the driver i have core audio selected.

This post has been edited by APPARATUS: Thu 26 Aug 2004, 08:37

[td3k]

Under the Logic Menu > Preferences...> Start Logic Setup Assistant...

In the Audio section of setup assistant select "Digidesign HW (mBox)" uncheck "TDM Support with Logic" and also uncheck "Disable Core Audio"

[APPARATUS]

that did it! it works now thanks. i still don't understand why i couldn't do that from the audio harware setup but oh well i'm happy now!

[td3k]

Cheers...