What is the BEST way to perform live (at bar) using Logic Pro with iMac G5?
I have a hard time, well, it takes a lot of time loading each individual song project...Open - Perform song - Close, then open the next project....It seems to complicated but Then again, I'm New to live gigs, logic I have used for a while.
Can someone please help?
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live sequencer/computer systems are never fast enough. but i've used DP and Live in performance situations, and a few things sped up the load-perform times.
in DP, i use only 1 project, with many 'chunks' that are essentially different songs. I find that rendering my many tracks to audio-only stems, with the effects printed in already, speeds up load times. a fast external drive helps. some backing tracks don't need any live remixing at all, and they get bounced to one or two stems. others get a more flexible treatment. I then treat the individual stems like cells in Live, bringing them in and out to perform the arrangement on the fly.
Live is more suited to this free form process.
i will say that a G5 imac is not a particularly fast machine, though i understand the need to have a 'beater' out on gigs. i'd bet an intel laptop of 3 years ago would be cheap and measurably faster.
good luck.
in DP, i use only 1 project, with many 'chunks' that are essentially different songs. I find that rendering my many tracks to audio-only stems, with the effects printed in already, speeds up load times. a fast external drive helps. some backing tracks don't need any live remixing at all, and they get bounced to one or two stems. others get a more flexible treatment. I then treat the individual stems like cells in Live, bringing them in and out to perform the arrangement on the fly.
Live is more suited to this free form process.
i will say that a G5 imac is not a particularly fast machine, though i understand the need to have a 'beater' out on gigs. i'd bet an intel laptop of 3 years ago would be cheap and measurably faster.
good luck.
QUOTE (houstonmusic @ Thu 24 Dec 2009, 18:40) 
live sequencer/computer systems are never fast enough. but i've used DP and Live in performance situations, and a few things sped up the load-perform times.
in DP, i use only 1 project, with many 'chunks' that are essentially different songs. I find that rendering my many tracks to audio-only stems, with the effects printed in already, speeds up load times. a fast external drive helps. some backing tracks don't need any live remixing at all, and they get bounced to one or two stems. others get a more flexible treatment. I then treat the individual stems like cells in Live, bringing them in and out to perform the arrangement on the fly.
Live is more suited to this free form process.
i will say that a G5 imac is not a particularly fast machine, though i understand the need to have a 'beater' out on gigs. i'd bet an intel laptop of 3 years ago would be cheap and measurably faster.
good luck.
in DP, i use only 1 project, with many 'chunks' that are essentially different songs. I find that rendering my many tracks to audio-only stems, with the effects printed in already, speeds up load times. a fast external drive helps. some backing tracks don't need any live remixing at all, and they get bounced to one or two stems. others get a more flexible treatment. I then treat the individual stems like cells in Live, bringing them in and out to perform the arrangement on the fly.
Live is more suited to this free form process.
i will say that a G5 imac is not a particularly fast machine, though i understand the need to have a 'beater' out on gigs. i'd bet an intel laptop of 3 years ago would be cheap and measurably faster.
good luck.
Hey Huston, cheers from Mission TX...
Before anything,I appreciate your response and wish you the best vibes for you dude!
OK, Fortunately I Have been experimenting with live and it is a big blur for me still. If you can send me? a part or the concert settings of your successful experience you already had with it. You see, I toyed around with the rewire in one channel or cell? and it looks to me that what you are saying or I understand rather, a cell contains all midi or audio channel strips from logic?
i figure if you can send me a screen shot or again, the template you used for that gig will be a great relief, I am switching careers from sales to bar-event solo performer, that's why I'm looking for fast project switching (song Switching) to perform 2 to 3 hours of "live " music in an effective and expedite way.
some backing tracks I have mixed to two audio tracks from midi project, and some I left the midi version with 2 audio tracks... What do you recommend midi or audio? Which one consumes less virtual memory?
By the way I am not clear about your obserbation about my mac and here is a description of what I'm running on..
Your now south-Texas contact,
Arturo Salinas Girodengo
Hardware Overview:
Model Name: iMac
Model Identifier: iMac4,1
Processor Name: Intel Core Duo
Processor Speed: 1.83 GHz
Number Of Processors: 1
Total Number Of Cores: 2
L2 Cache: 2 MB
Memory: 2 GB
Bus Speed: 667 MHz
Boot ROM Version: IM41.0055.B08
SMC Version (system): 1.1f5
QUOTE (elpasadoDarturo @ Sat 26 Dec 2009, 12:21)
QUOTE (houstonmusic @ Thu 24 Dec 2009, 18:40)
live sequencer/computer systems are never fast enough. but i've used DP and Live in performance situations, and a few things sped up the load-perform times.
in DP, i use only 1 project, with many 'chunks' that are essentially different songs. I find that rendering my many tracks to audio-only stems, with the effects printed in already, speeds up load times. a fast external drive helps. some backing tracks don't need any live remixing at all, and they get bounced to one or two stems. others get a more flexible treatment. I then treat the individual stems like cells in Live, bringing them in and out to perform the arrangement on the fly.
Live is more suited to this free form process.
i will say that a G5 imac is not a particularly fast machine, though i understand the need to have a 'beater' out on gigs. i'd bet an intel laptop of 3 years ago would be cheap and measurably faster.
good luck.
in DP, i use only 1 project, with many 'chunks' that are essentially different songs. I find that rendering my many tracks to audio-only stems, with the effects printed in already, speeds up load times. a fast external drive helps. some backing tracks don't need any live remixing at all, and they get bounced to one or two stems. others get a more flexible treatment. I then treat the individual stems like cells in Live, bringing them in and out to perform the arrangement on the fly.
Live is more suited to this free form process.
i will say that a G5 imac is not a particularly fast machine, though i understand the need to have a 'beater' out on gigs. i'd bet an intel laptop of 3 years ago would be cheap and measurably faster.
good luck.
Hey Huston, cheers from Mission TX...
Before anything,I appreciate your response and wish you the best vibes for you dude!
OK, Fortunately I Have been experimenting with live and it is a big blur for me still. If you can send me? a part or the concert settings of your successful experience you already had with it. You see, I toyed around with the rewire in one channel or cell? and it looks to me that what you are saying or I understand rather, a cell contains all midi or audio channel strips from logic?
i figure if you can send me a screen shot or again, the template you used for that gig will be a great relief, I am switching careers from sales to bar-event solo performer, that's why I'm looking for fast project switching (song Switching) to perform 2 to 3 hours of "live " music in an effective and expedite way.
some backing tracks I have mixed to two audio tracks from midi project, and some I left the midi version with 2 audio tracks... What do you recommend midi or audio? Which one consumes less virtual memory?
By the way I am not clear about your obserbation about my mac and here is a description of what I'm running on..
Your now south-Texas contact,
Arturo Salinas Girodengo
Hardware Overview:
Model Name: iMac
Model Identifier: iMac4,1
Processor Name: Intel Core Duo
Processor Speed: 1.83 GHz
Number Of Processors: 1
Total Number Of Cores: 2
L2 Cache: 2 MB
Memory: 2 GB
Bus Speed: 667 MHz
Boot ROM Version: IM41.0055.B08
SMC Version (system): 1.1f5
hey arturo,
i've got nothing. those days are long gone, though fun.
i do think Live is a powerful tool, though i feel you, it can be confusing.
your computer is certainly up to the task at hand. i'd gathered from your first post that you were running an old G4 imac. i see it's an intel duo based machine, in fact. that's good.
if you've got only a few midi tracks and two or three audio tracks loading with a project, i bet you're getting load times that are close to optimal. though that can seem like forever on stage.
perhaps others can weigh in on what kind of load times they're getting. on my macbook pro an audio only sequence loads in a matter of 10 seconds or so, in DP.
good luck.
i've got nothing. those days are long gone, though fun.
i do think Live is a powerful tool, though i feel you, it can be confusing.
your computer is certainly up to the task at hand. i'd gathered from your first post that you were running an old G4 imac. i see it's an intel duo based machine, in fact. that's good.
if you've got only a few midi tracks and two or three audio tracks loading with a project, i bet you're getting load times that are close to optimal. though that can seem like forever on stage.
perhaps others can weigh in on what kind of load times they're getting. on my macbook pro an audio only sequence loads in a matter of 10 seconds or so, in DP.
good luck.
If you have Logic pro check out Mainstage, it's designed for live performance.
QUOTE (houstonmusic @ Mon 28 Dec 2009, 16:25)
hey arturo,
i've got nothing. those days are long gone, though fun.
i do think Live is a powerful tool, though i feel you, it can be confusing.
your computer is certainly up to the task at hand. i'd gathered from your first post that you were running an old G4 imac. i see it's an intel duo based machine, in fact. that's good.
if you've got only a few midi tracks and two or three audio tracks loading with a project, i bet you're getting load times that are close to optimal. though that can seem like forever on stage.
perhaps others can weigh in on what kind of load times they're getting. on my macbook pro an audio only sequence loads in a matter of 10 seconds or so, in DP.
good luck.
i've got nothing. those days are long gone, though fun.
i do think Live is a powerful tool, though i feel you, it can be confusing.
your computer is certainly up to the task at hand. i'd gathered from your first post that you were running an old G4 imac. i see it's an intel duo based machine, in fact. that's good.
if you've got only a few midi tracks and two or three audio tracks loading with a project, i bet you're getting load times that are close to optimal. though that can seem like forever on stage.
perhaps others can weigh in on what kind of load times they're getting. on my macbook pro an audio only sequence loads in a matter of 10 seconds or so, in DP.
good luck.
live is pretty much the best thing for live performance the only draw back is you can't open more than one song at a time but my buddy and i have used reason for a while and it works great it load pretty fast you can have as many song you to be open at a time so you can switch songs very smoothly with each at it own tempo
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