How Do I Reduce Hiss On Guitar Parts And Live Reordings?, Logic Express plug-ins Options

[julbul]

Real amp, good miking, eq and noise gate.

[Mac Daddy]

julbul Posted Today, 12:02 AM .... {Real amp, good miking, eq and noise gate.}

julbul... Amen, Amen, Amen. There is also D/I. Direct In. Line 6. Guitar Rig and several other such alternatives. Plus, they cost less than a "Good Amp, Microphone and Cables".

Save the Hisssssssssssss for the 'Live', but... "It sucks there too"

[Will2009]

Psych... Guitar "Hiss" my favorite subject... Hum does not work in the studio environment period. Hum sucks no matter where it is, I have learned to accept it at a Live Gig, but it sucks there too. Unless your Amp does not Hum and your Microphone is at least a step above "Entry Level" (Cheap) then an Amp is cool. DI is much better in the studio, there is a lot less transfer going on. Why would you want "Hiss and Hum on your Recordings"? To prove it's a real guitar? A guitarist will know what you've done. No one can tell if you're using a Pre-CBS Fender, Marshall, MusicMan, whatever on a Recording... They would only be guessing. Too many "Killer" DI Solutions to ever worry about getting great guitar in and Hiss and Hum out... In fact, you can add hiss... Dumbest thing I ever heard of, but people using Virtual Guitars use it I've read... Buy Hiss!!!! It's insane. Line 6 is a great alternative and I'll bet it sounds better than whatever Amp you're using... It will leave your Amp, whatever it is, no matter how tweaked, whacked and pimped out it might be in the dust... On Stage as well...

Piss on Hiss... Sorry, could not help it.

I do like the mixing/blending of the two guitars, but, why? Why do you want Hiss on your maxed out mixes??????

Psych... Guitar "Hiss" my favorite subject... Hum does not work in the studio environment period. Hum sucks no matter where it is, I have learned to accept it at a Live Gig, but it sucks there too. Unless your Amp does not Hum and your Microphone is at least a step above "Entry Level" (Cheap) then an Amp is cool. DI is much better in the studio, there is a lot less transfer going on. Why would you want "Hiss and Hum on your Recordings"? To prove it's a real guitar? A guitarist will know what you've done. No one can tell if you're using a Pre-CBS Fender, Marshall, MusicMan, whatever on a Recording... They would only be guessing. Too many "Killer" DI Solutions to ever worry about getting great guitar in and Hiss and Hum out... In fact, you can add hiss... Dumbest thing I ever heard of, but people using Virtual Guitars use it I've read... Buy Hiss!!!! It's insane. Line 6 is a great alternative and I'll bet it sounds better than whatever Amp you're using... It will leave your Amp, whatever it is, no matter how tweaked, whacked and pimped out it might be in the dust... On Stage as well...

Piss on Hiss... Sorry, could not help it.

I do like the mixing/blending of the two guitars, but, why? Why do you want Hiss on your maxed out mixes??????

you might just be picking up ground-loop interference, and no matter what you do gear wise it won't totally go away, so, look into this first

[Mac Daddy]

In retrospect I am embarrassed by my "Piss on Hiss" remarks/opinions.... However, in my defense, I understand what it is and can tolerate it "Live", but in the Studio it drives me crazy.

The only way it makes sense in a noise-free, pristine environment is DI Direct In. But, "Guitarist" love their 'Whatever' 40 Watt or 400 Watt Favorite Amp and without it don't get the sound THEY like. Hiss and Hum destroys recordings in MY opinion... Operative word: "My".

Seeing my words after many months have lead me to understand I am an 'Old School Fool'. I apologize to any and all Guitarist who I have offended.

Guitarist rule. Whatever or wherever. Modern music would not be what it is without Guitarist. Period....

I apologize. I'm embarrassed. Somethings come back and kick you in the sack... My Hiss and Hum Posts sure did...

BUT, Hiss and Hum hurts my ears....

AM I THE ONLY ONE???????

[emgcarra]

Hi All:

I´ve been succesfull avoiding Fender and using Tranzport......(Fender quote is a joke, but Tranzport helps a lot...)
emgcarra

[Will2009]

it could simply be that you are picking up ground loop interference, or are your chords and cables compatible, don't try to re-invent the wheel, most often it is the simple things that we may overlook that causes us the most problems.



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This post has been edited by Will2009: Fri 5 Dec 2008, 04:09

[mortalengines]

I have noticed that the hiss and hum I get is pretty dependent on quality of instrument cables and their length and by how many effects are in the chain. Sometimes it can also be a mere matter of turning 90 degrees away from the amp or my monitor. Using a gate that opens and closes quickly can often help where a signal may be a little noisy as well.

[Will2009]

yes, that's what ground loop interference will cause you to do , in order to quieten the instrument or equipment, there is something in the chain that needs to be grounded better,
to find exactly which one can be somewhat of an task, but a necessary one, especially if it's very noticeable in your music.. you can probably google " Ground Loop Interference "
and find out much more about it than I can tell you.. Good Luck!!

[azkid]

How do i reduce hiss on guitar parts and live reordings but still maintain quality sound?
Obviously it helps to have a quality recording in the first place but sometimes i need to take out the background hiss from other samples etc
Any suggestions would be gratefully appreciated on which are the best plug-ins from Logic Express 7.2 for this and how to tweek them effectively?

We haven't heard back from you Repo, and lot's of responses to your hiss prob. Hiss noise is usually defined as a higher frequency than hum. Hum is most always around 60Hz (really low), or multiples thereof, and is usually caused from a poor ground connection.

If it's truly hiss that you're talking about, and it's a high frequency, like "white noise" with a "s" instead of the "sh" sound, then it may be something as simple as too much gain in that particular frequency. Preamps are notorious for introducing hiss, as are sensitive mics. Then again, cold solder joints can cause it too, as well as a leaking circuit component like a capacitor or tube.

As you connect your equipment, one at a time, find the source of the noise? Make sure your cables and connectors are good, all connections and plugs/jacks, should be cleaned from time to time.

It sounds from your original statements, that this hiss has always been with you, both while recording and during live play. If this is true, and you can hear the hiss outside of your recording, then try finding out what equipment and which settings are causing it. Move stuff around, change the high end equalization, and repair/replace the piece that brings the noise in.

Other than that, you really are stuck with trying to edit it out of your recording, with equalization or noise gates or software that edits out that particular noise.

I'd like to hear back from YOU, with more info on what equipment you're connecting, and a description of the "hiss'.

(We gave away noise for free at the phone company, so I know a little about it. )

Thanks and good luck!

[Will2009]

I agree with you on this, in going thru the process of elimination to find the source and then apply the necessary corrections..