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eohlson13
post Thu 12 Sep 2002, 15:22
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i want to get VST plugins to work. At the motu website, it says that you have to create an auxiluary track and assign the instrument plug-in to this track (i have VST WRAPPER)...but...

how do i create an auxiluary track?

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Seekir
post Thu 12 Sep 2002, 20:38
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In just about any window in DP3, click the mini menu (just right of the close button at the top) and go down to "add track" then right to "aux" (pg. 150 in the manual).

You might want to join the DP forum at for more specific DP information: http://www.unicornation.com/
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post Thu 12 Sep 2002, 21:27
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No needs to join Unicornation to get an answer concerning DP ;-)

Eohlson13, first of all, can you see all vst plugins in the audio->plugins menu of DP?
Are you sure you correctcly define the folder where all VST plugins reside in, for vst-wrapper (generally setup at first launch of vst-wrapper, IIRC)?

If everything above is true, just create an aux track with the mini-menu of the Sequence or Tracks or Mix windows (like Seekir said), then assign the plugin in the "Inserts section" of the brand new aux track, in the "Mix" window.

Then, send each desired tracks you want the effect to be applied to, in the "Sends" section of each track (try control-click on the rotary button), also in the "Mix" window.

This is only true for effects you want to apply globally, to many differents tracks (say reverberation for example). Compressors are generally inserted directly on the desired audio track.

But before all, RTFM ;-) And sorry for all my grammar and vocabulary mistakes.

Don't hesitate to ask us for more infos.

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post Fri 13 Sep 2002, 14:56
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first off...believe me, if i HAD an owners manual, i would have read it by now, but i purchased DP3 over ebay, and there wasn't a manual included in the transaction...i'm learning this program on the fly.

secondly, thanks for the replys...yekelele...all the vsts are working, and i got up to the point where you told me to "send each desired tracks you want the effect to be applied to, in the "Sends" section of each track (try control-click on the rotary button), also in the "Mix" window."... but got confused...what is the "rotary button"? i'm going to try to screw around with this more after work, so hopefully i stumble on to something, but if not any further help would be appreciated.

one last question...and don't laugh (like i said...i'm teaching myself this vastly complex program)...vsti's are controlled by midi, correct? i'm going to buy some books on this stuff when i get paid monday, so i won't ask so many rediculous questions and clutter up the forum...i just wish i had a copy of the DP3 manual...can you d/l it as a pdf anywhere?

once again thanks for the responses, both of you.


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post Sat 14 Sep 2002, 19:36
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QUOTE (eohlson13 @ Sep 13 2002, 15:56)
i got up to the point where you told me to "send each desired tracks you want the effect to be applied to, in the "Sends" section of each track (try control-click on the rotary button), also in the "Mix" window."... but got confused...what is the "rotary button"?

In the Mix Window, each track has different sections, from top to bottom (verify it's checked in the mini-menu):

- inserts section (for plugins), with 5 locations
- sends section, with 4 rotary buttons (hint, it's here ;-)
- solo/mute/rec section
- automation mode section
- pan section
- volume

You must raise one of the "rotary" button level of the send section, and choose the correct bus (the same as the aux input) in the pop-up menu.

Have a look to the MOTU snapshot at http://www.motu.com/english/software/dp/dp...es/mixer400.gif for example.

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vsti's are controlled by midi, correct?


Yes, like if it was an external synth, just choose the correct output in DP.

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i just wish i had a copy of the DP3 manual...can you d/l it as a pdf anywhere


I don't think so, but it would be quite handy (search function!).

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post Fri 20 Sep 2002, 19:00
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I wish there was an aftermarket book with DP tips or a "for dummies" type of manual available for DP. I suppose the market for this kind of book isn't large enough to justify publishing one though. Though the DP manual has a good reputation, and does its best to cover all the incredible capabilities of DP, the language is sometimes difficult or over concise in my opinion. I learned a great deal about the graphics apps I use from aftermarket books and miss the option of using them with DP. The guy who writes about DP for SOS magazine has several of his DP tips and articles archived here:

http://www.passacaglia.com/bigwood-digital/index2.html

By the way, posts requesting manuals are viewed with understandable suspicion on the Unicornation site, and often result in flaming. I'd avoid making any direct queries there re. the availability of manuals.
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QUOTE (Seekir @ Sep 20 2002, 20:00)
I wish there was an aftermarket book with DP tips or a "for dummies" type of manual available for DP. I suppose the market for this kind of book isn't large enough to justify publishing one though.

Sorry, i bought DP 2,5 some time ago, and quite never read the manual entirely. DP is very intuitive IMHO, or maybe it's just my way of seeing sound & music together ;-)
Although, nothing can replace a manual, even feeling & intuition, IMHO.

Thanks for the link, that's one DP's tips website more in my bookmarks ;-)


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Though the DP manual has a good reputation, and does its best to cover all the incredible capabilities of DP, the language is sometimes difficult or over concise in my opinion.


Sorry, i don't agree here. DP's manual is very clear and redondant (maybe too much?), IMHO again. Maybe a great translation? (french here)

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By the way, posts requesting manuals are viewed with understandable suspicion on the Unicornation site, and often result in flaming. I'd avoid making any direct queries there re. the availability of manuals.


Yes, thanks for that.
Anyway, i can understand Unicornation's position about this, as it's clearly unfair that legal users give "tips" and "condition of oprerations" to illegal users... Don't you think?
In conclusion, if you use illegal software, just don't ask/beg for support about it here, from any legitimate users. Or do it intelligently, hint unsure.gif

That's a long debate...

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post Tue 24 Sep 2002, 19:13
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I'd agree that DP is an intuitive app in comparison to the others I've dabbled with. The interface seems pretty good to me. However, when I first fired it up and began working with it as a complete DAW newbie, the multiple windows and environments (tracks, mixer, soundbites, sequence editor, midi editor, drum editor, etc.) were simply overwhelming, and the 1.5" inch thick manual proved to be quite a challenge for someone basically unfamiliar with the language of recording. Add the MOTU 828, its control panel, MIDI and the Freemidi/OMS stuff and the launch process becomes very tough. This is not to say that it's poorly conceived or documented, many engineers/musicians far more experienced than I with other alternatives are very impressed with it. I know its capabilities are enormous, but as an amateur unable to take time off and get some professional instruction, I've found unlocking its potential with a manual and some forums/lists specific to HD recording is a challenge unlike any other I've encountered since becoming a Mac user and learning graphics apps like Photoshop and Freehand, which I considered to be pretty deep and complex before taking up digital home recording. Despite the challenge I've found the experience of recording and realizing my little projects to be an amazing and rewarding experience. I'm counting myself among the DP faithful, but I do fantasize about better sources of tips and step-by-step instruction.
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post Wed 25 Sep 2002, 14:57
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smile.gif Good DP3 tutorials are available at: macaudiolab.com and coolbreezesystems.com These have helped me a great deal.

tongue.gif Good luck, DANO10
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Seekir
post Wed 25 Sep 2002, 17:27
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Though I'm really more interested in a printed book, I appreciate the links. Couldn't get the coolbreezesystems.com server.
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