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> A Look At Arabic Music Scales, This is very intresting
Dimora
post Thu 13 May 2004, 16:45
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What a great post!

I've been a huge fan of Middle Eastern and Asian music for a very long time now, I've even taught myself some Cheb singing. It has enriched my compositions and instrumental techniques in ways most European music hasn't taught me. Just by listening to it, you will start to notice how much space is between our European half step and how simplistic our understading of rhythm is.

It's starting to become a more popular style, sound and form. Even hip hop tunes are starting to use lots of samples of tabla and dumbek patterns (albeit, just little clips), which is great! It's a great way to educate the public. Unfortunately there is probably no thought on the basics of what they're sampling, but still it's a good improvment tongue.gif

Anyways, thank you for the site bandar!!! I can't wait to study it!
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post Fri 14 May 2004, 23:52
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yeh,sounds great smile.gif .
I've heard people use lots of reverb on pianos playing arabic scales,which works very well,as an accomp. for lots of diferent styles of music.
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post Sun 13 Jun 2004, 13:58
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hi everybody..

arabic music seems great and rich..i had studied the main arabic scales and the subscales..they are more than one hundred, some of them sound indentical, and they differenciate in the way the player use them..and of course every scale stands on 24 notes( the total notes of two octaves including the quarter tones) therefor the name is to be changed for instance: Rast is the arabic C major, Nawah is the arabic G major...so instead to reference the music tuned on C or on G...we call it, this music is on Rast, this is on Nawah.
what do you know guys about moroccan music??

all the best.

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post Mon 30 Aug 2004, 22:32
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QUOTE (bandar @ Aug 28 2003, 06:10)
Hello Mac Musicians.... :-)

I am so much in favor of arabic music, because it is very rich in term of scales and styles...

this website is listing 40 of the 100 scales with MIDI and Notation samples and i think it is a very good resource for learning about Arabic Music...

Let me know what you guys think......

Enjoy,

In additiona to the different scales, doesn't Arabic music use different tunings?

I've got an older Kurzweil, and it lets you select various tunings, one of which is a generic "Arabic" setting. I have no idea if this is authentic not though!

Do you do stuff with different tunings?

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post Sun 12 Sep 2004, 18:44
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Thanks for helping us get our musical blinkers pushed out smile.gif
Now the world is so small, we have no excuse for keeping them on.

I wonder what a group of Chinese/Arabic/Scot musicians would come out with in a jam.


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post Tue 4 Sep 2007, 18:46
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QUOTE (bandar @ Thu 28 Aug 2003, 00:10) *
Hello Mac Musicians.... :-)

I am a new member and this is my first post...

I am a music composer from Saudi Arabia (I have nothing to do with terrorism or politics) and i came to find that most musicians in the western world do not have a good idea about the richness of arabic music...

I am so much in favor of arabic music, because it is very rich in term of scales and styles... as i studied music, i came to find out that western music has two main scales (major and minor) and few other sub scales (as harmonic and jazz and few others i do not recall). On the other hand, Arabic music has over 8 main scales, and a total of 99 (main and sub) scales... not to forget that a new scale was invented (and certified) three years ago, taking the number to a total of one-hundred scales.

Western music is based on the (half tone distance), Arabic music is based on the (quarter tone distance) meaning that between every two notes (next to each other like C and C#) in the western scale, there is an extra note in the arabian scale...( which is C "half sharp" )

One other great thing is that the two main western scales (Major and Minor) are among the eight main scales of arabian music, fitting perfectly with the other ones, and named AJAM for Major and NAHAWAND for Minor...

One good website explaining Arabic scales is : http://www.maqamworld.com/

the word MAQAM is the arabic word for Scale (or Key signature).

this website is listing 40 of the 100 scales with MIDI and Notation samples and i think it is a very good resource for learning about Arabic Music...

Let me know what you guys think......

Enjoy,



I am so happy to wake up this morning and find these posts!
I live in the USA in Colorado but have traveled and studied and played my arabic oud (fretless lute) through Egypt, Syria and quite a few other arabic countries. I have never enjoyed myself so much! I also feel that the richness of the arabic music world is a great treasure waiting to be more fully discovered.
I have written a book called: "Arabic Musical Scales: Basic Maqam Teachings with 2 cd's" which teaches 45 of the most used scales. Entering into this world of exquisite musicianship is well worth the adventure: so many new emotional mixtures to explore! Keep posting! cameron
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post Wed 5 Sep 2007, 08:40
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QUOTE (alxonline @ Sat 24 Apr 2004, 16:44) *
hi everyone!

my name is alx and i'm from romania.
i would have a question..as i assume u do know a lot of arabic songs and singers.

well, back in 1999 i heard an arabic song that was sang by a woman who was dressed up as Cleopatra (the video), laying down on something inside a pyramid and the video also had some war scenes! i saw it a couple of times but I CAN'T remember WHO SANG it!

if someone can help me track it down, write to me at alx-online@go.ro
thank you!
i really appreciate!
alx.



Your description sounds like it could be Natacha Atlas <http://natachaatlas.net>. Ms. Atlas was born in Belgium, but has roots in Egypt, Palestine and Morocco. She ranges from traditional and/or classical to modern and has also worked with a group called Transglobal Underground. I had the pleasure of hearing her in person a few months ago and strongly recommend her music. Even if it turns out that she is not the singer you are thinking of, she's well worth listening to. I am curious to know if, indeed, she is the singer you're thinking of and, if so, what the song was that made such an impression that eight years later, you're still thinking about it. I'd like to hear it.

Thanks to everyone for this thread. I love arabic music and am pleased to see the discussion. Thanks, as well, for all the links.
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post Thu 6 Sep 2007, 04:53
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I also love Arabic music - years ago, some students at my university taught me some songs from their countries, and turned me on to a Lebanese album - singer Fairuz - that was a start. But I have simply never had enough information on the topic. I would love to see this topic expand - the unique rhythms and scales seem to speak to me despite any political considerations. Music is a universal language.
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post Sat 27 Jun 2009, 13:54
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QUOTE (MacFeegle @ Wed 5 Sep 2007, 07:40) *
Your description sounds like it could be Natacha Atlas <http://natachaatlas.net>. Ms. Atlas was born in Belgium, but has roots in Egypt, Palestine and Morocco. She ranges from traditional and/or classical to modern and has also worked with a group called Transglobal Underground. I had the pleasure of hearing her in person a few months ago and strongly recommend her music. Even if it turns out that she is not the singer you are thinking of, she's well worth listening to. I am curious to know if, indeed, she is the singer you're thinking of and, if so, what the song was that made such an impression that eight years later, you're still thinking about it. I'd like to hear it.

Thanks to everyone for this thread. I love arabic music and am pleased to see the discussion. Thanks, as well, for all the links.


wow, i had posted my question in 2004 lol..
yes, it was natacha atlas! i was quite surprised coz i knew some of her songs already.
anyway i found the video on youtube (praise technology!), can be seen here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gi6CA_1TGns
it might not look (or sound) like much now, but it was very impressive for the then 14year old me smile.gif
thanks a lot for your reply!
cheers!
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post Tue 29 Dec 2009, 11:21
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HI all, i am a new member to this forum. I have gone through this post and like to say something. I am not a big fan of Arabian Music , because i have not many sources to collect . But i heard some songs and liked much. It seems that the music is only made for those Arabic lyrics. Your post again remind me and i will listen those songs again . Thanks you.
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