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ironhead
post Tue 9 Feb 2010, 16:20
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QUOTE (add9 @ Fri 13 Jun 2003, 18:01) *
My story smile.gif

I started singing as a young girl and got more and more work as a vocalist. I spent years on the road with different bands singing coversongs.
A friend gave me a piano 10 years ago and I felt this urge for writing songs. I didn't know anything about charts or how to write music but I wanted to learn more....and more... I had so much music in my head.
I had a few producers that helped me to get a few of my songs in shape but I was never really satisfied. Then I got together with a musician(guitarist) who also was a producer. I guess he got tired of me asking him to help me with my songs, so he gave me a Tascam 8 track Portastudio and showed me how to get started in Logic. That is when I really started to find out what I really wanted in life. I sat day in and day out learning about this great tool called Logic. I had EMU proteus 1000 with just "straight" sounds in it and I soon got tired of them and started making "ugly" sounds using filters etc. That is 6 years ago. My boyfriend and I left eachother two years ago and I guess it was not healthy for the realationship that I was stepping over towards his area. We also fought about who was to use the studio biggrin.gif
I had to start all over again. I was used to ProTools and all the best equipment you can think of...
Music means everything to me. Every dime I get now goes to music-equipment.

I am out walking and get an idea in my head, I rush home and work with it on the piano. When I have the arrangment ready....in my head, when I am playing and singing, I go over to my G4 and start making it in Logic.

Unfortunatly....my intense interest in music is not just positive. I hardly ever go out anymore....I can't listen to music like I used to either. I kind of analyze it. Picking it apart....listening to the chords, the mix, the producing....I can't just put on a CD any more just enjoying it, well, ....there are a few that are perfect in my ears...I am very critical to all kinds of music ....and mostly my own rolleyes.gif

I have gone from being just another singing-girl to a songwriter and a producer.
I hope that one day I will be one of the few good female producers.

"Working haaaaard for the money...."

Great i love your vibes and positiveness as a woman running your own show wow i am a full time musician drummer, singer, producer , writer play genre form reggae to pop some latin was living working in mexico, florida now i am back home in jamaica and i am about to launch my album always into logic it's my program for inspiration but now i am using mixbus along with logic to that fat warm sound in the box .
it took me awhile to learn the ins and the out of mixing but watch lot of tutorial video and read and practice night and day my life is nothing without music making and creating music is inspiring it's a wonderful feeling.
we should link up and do a collaboration video by skype or ichat with logic i did it with a friend and it came out excellent i also record the video session
we could get great result
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post Tue 9 Feb 2010, 16:38
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QUOTE (alimaamoser @ Sun 7 Feb 2010, 07:01) *
Anyone know of any software for making music thats free?? I need to make some background music for a video game im making.As long as it can be saved in .wav format im good.
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ardour is one audicity or check this link http://www.pcmus.com/Free-Software.htm there are many out there just google
i hope this helps
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alimaamoser
post Wed 10 Mar 2010, 08:05
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This friend of mine, who's a guitarist, has a bit of problem with his sense of time. As a drummer, I told him to practice with a metronome, as I know it'll help him greatly. He doesn't like the idea and refuses.

He also reluctant to learn basic musical theory, as he thinks it's complicated and unnecessary.

How do I convince him to practice with a metronome and study musical theory? IMO, these are elementary things that ALL musicians should understand. He also 'worships' John Mayer and plays the blues.


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post Thu 11 Mar 2010, 13:20
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As with any guitarist, or even some vocalist(s), you bribe them with cookies. That should be on the first page of "How to be a successful music producer".

Can't believe you missed that . . . smile.gif
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post Thu 11 Mar 2010, 15:26
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Making music with an instrument is such a personal thing, and once past childhood (if we do mature), we tend to take advise or feedback personally. The ego rules.

That being said, your friend may need to hear that he's not keeping tempo from more than one person, and you being his friend may not count at all. Can he jam with others? Does he ever play along with a rhythm guitarist? Does he record his playing so that he can hear it second hand? What kind of difficulty does his playing cause?

Before he will make any changes, he's got to see the benefit. That's human nature. I dunno that cookies will work, but my piano teacher used to tell me a story about a pony she had as a kid, and how it would never come to her unless she had hay or grain in her hand. And then she'd ask me, "what is your bale of hay"? LOL tongue.gif

So as his friend, find out what he really wants out of his music and help him get there gently.

I used to play with a great lead guitarist, G'bless her soul. While we'd be jamming, she'd put me in awe so badly that I'd lose my place! She'd never had a minute of lesson and couldn't read a note. There was no "theory" what so ever in her musical experience. But she made that 1968 Gibson cry the blues like somethin' I'd never heard. She just passed away last week.

I've noticed over the years that folks who sing or play blues have a tendency to lag the beat. It's in their soul and can't be unlearned. If that's where your friend is at, then maybe you'd be better off to chalk up his untempo'd playing to artistic license.

Good luck with this, and make sure this friendship is at least as valuable as your need to fix his playing. wink.gif

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post Thu 18 Mar 2010, 18:22
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QUOTE (alimaamoser @ Wed 10 Mar 2010, 08:05) *
This friend of mine, who's a guitarist, has a bit of problem with his sense of time. As a drummer, I told him to practice with a metronome, as I know it'll help him greatly. He doesn't like the idea and refuses.

He also reluctant to learn basic musical theory, as he thinks it's complicated and unnecessary.

How do I convince him to practice with a metronome and study musical theory? IMO, these are elementary things that ALL musicians should understand. He also 'worships' John Mayer and plays the blues.

Hello

Rule of thumb: we never learn anything untill we are aware we need to, so people can't convice us if we are deaf or blind to reality.

Here, i suggest you record you and your friend playing, or your friend and a metronome, make him hear, and try to know what he thinks of what he heard. Maybe he won't notice anything, so he's not ready to learn smile.gif, so wait till he asks.
More sophisticated: compose a tune, record drum & bass & keyboards with your sequencer on you computer, quantize all or most of it, and have him play one or two parts (and sweat to record a clean track). Afterwards you can move his tracks to make him hear how it would sound if it were played more "in place" with the beat.
Most of us are reluctant to play on a metronome or electronic drum because machines' lack in feeling. Actually whatever a machine plays, we bring the feeling. The most commun trick is "play on a cowbell, and make that cowbell sound groovy". It is really joyfull when we succeed in doing that. You can share that key info. In fact, all musicians around the world need to respect a regular beat, because it is the immemorial link with the dance. Subtelties that happens inside the beat is specific to local or historical culture, it has to be dealt with later, don't worry yet.
Another very efficient method is to practice the same line or pattern or groove at 4, 5... 10 different tempi, faster, then back slower. (For instance add 5 to 10 - or 15 if you are impatient - points to the tempo until it's really unplayable, then decrease down to 60 or even 50)
That's for rhythm.

About theory, which is not needed to produce the magic of music, it is needed when it's time to organize the knowledge we accumulated through the years. So same thing, if curiosity is aroused, you friend will be asking by himself on time. Just talk about it slighty.

But, alas, the best way to understand that we don't play properly - and so that we have to practice with one method or other - is unfortunately when people stop playing with us 'cause we don't make any progress unsure.gif . Music is a collective art. Easy to get kicked & banned when we are not up to it. laugh.gif

Hope this helps.


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