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QUOTE (ryosode @ Dec 17 2002, 20:33) Yes as Rickenbacker mentioned Edirol (Roland in Japan) PCR-30 and PCR-50 are very very cool keyboards. If they had these out before Oxygen 8, I probably bought one. They sell as PCR-30 and PCR-50 in Japan as well. http://www.roland.co.jp/products/dtm/PCR-50.html Soo, between the two Edirol models and Radium, which would you get? Also, Ryosode, is hardware like the above cheaper in Japan or the US? What is the best place to buy in Tokyo? Arigato, charlie |
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Wed 18 Dec 2002, 12:20
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Charlieb: I'd have thought the Edirol/Roland keyboards would be as cheap in Japan as they are in the US or the UK. Check out a few US online music stores (like musiciansfriend.com or sweetwater.com, I think they're pretty big) and check their prices. In the UK, the full RRP of the PCR-50, which is the biggest of the two Edirol's, is £199. Probably a bit cheaper instore.
Between the Radium and the Edirols? Can't say. I don't know how big the Radium is (ie, its keyboard span), plus I've not seen one in real life, only on the web. In terms of functions, they all have 8 knobs and 8 sliders as far as I know, so pretty similar in that respect. So that's 8 sliders more than the Oxygen 8 straight away.  I have seen the PCR-50 for real, though, at MacExpo London. It's a really nice keyboard and is automatically recognised in OS 10.2. It also comes with preset knob assignment templates for Logic, Cubase, Reason etc, so the most common uses are already onboard. Don't know if the Radium does that, too - it might well do. But I like Edirol stuff. My Oxygen 8 has been fine (and still is) but as Rysode says, if the PCR-50 had been available six months ago, well... About the Virtual Memory - are you trying the demos in OS 9? If so, I can't help you. I'd have suggested the same thing as you've already tried. Post a message in the OS 9 forum pages here and someone will help you out. Maybe it's just a demo bug, but ask around and someone will help. |
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Thu 19 Dec 2002, 00:30
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QUOTE (charlieb @ Dec 17 2002, 15:49) Soo, between the two Edirol models and Radium, which would you get? Also, Ryosode, is hardware like the above cheaper in Japan or the US? What is the best place to buy in Tokyo? Arigato, charlie I'd get Edirol (or Roland for you), but quite frankly, I don't think there's much difference. I choose Roland for their reputation. The price of domestic pro audio equipments (Yamaha, Roland, etc) tend to go down quickly in Japan. If you can read Japanese, I recommend buyin one of these Keyboard magazines or a magazine called "Sound and Recording". They are good resource for you. If you can, go to Akihabara or Shinjuku's electronics area. There are dvisions of LAOX and Big Camera that are dedicated to selling latest audio stuff. These tend to be cheaper places to buy your equipments than going to a local instruments store. |
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Thu 19 Dec 2002, 00:33
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Oops, I mean "If you can , go to Akihabara or Shinjuku's electronics area, go there and check them out. If you can speak Japanese, do ask questions. These guys in Shinjuku or Akiharabara selling pro audio are well informed people."
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Thu 19 Dec 2002, 03:12
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QUOTE (ryosode @ Dec 18 2002, 23:30) The price of domestic pro audio equipments (Yamaha, Roland, etc) tend to go down quickly in Japan. If you can read Japanese, I recommend buyin one of these Keyboard magazines or a magazine called "Sound and Recording". They are good resource for you. If you can, go to Akihabara or Shinjuku's electronics area. There are dvisions of LAOX and Big Camera that are dedicated to selling latest audio stuff. These tend to be cheaper places to buy your equipments than going to a local instruments store. Ryosode, Thanks. Speaking Japanese in most instances is no problem for me. Reading I am terrible at. But if I go to BIC P Kan store then I can talk to the salespeople. I still might buy through a website in the US, but it will be fun to see stuff sitting in front of me. Thanks for all your help. Charlie |
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Fri 20 Dec 2002, 04:21
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In regard to my Virtual Memory problem...
Duhhh, I have Ram Doubler installed, and this was the problem. cb |
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QUOTE I am mostly interested in electronic music, and don't really see the possibility of the need to use real instruments. Therefore, can anyone recommend a decent starting point. I have heard of a software program called Reason. Would this be seen as the best piece of software for an electronically focused musician ? Reason is the way to go if you don't want to invest in real instruments. At least if you are using a newer Mac.. You didn't mention what system you're feeding.. and that makes all the difference in the world. The more VSTi instruments required, the more horsepower your system needs to keep up. Check out sweetwater.com for more information than you'll be able to deal with in one sitting.. And, NO.. I don't work for them.. but as far as I'm concerned, they are a God Send. Best of luck ! .............. Tom |
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