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Tue 27 Aug 2002, 23:36
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Thanks for all the info. Discovered that I have the waves demo...it was given out at an audio expo here in NY. It's definitely something to invest in.
A question to all the Mastering Pros:
What are the major Mastering Faux Pas to avoid?/the things that can make or break a mix?
ioGirl
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Wed 28 Aug 2002, 02:17
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"..Overall, Logic is the best software for me. But I still use Protools for the final touch. A lot is to with plugins and the algorithm..."
Above is a quote from the "best sequencer" Poll. There were many similar remarks about Pro Tools being the tool for Mastering....but if it's about plug-ins, does it matter if you're using Waves in PT or any other app?...or if you're using TDM plug-ins in PT or Logic?
ioGirl
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Wed 28 Aug 2002, 06:12
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I think the reason people talk about mastering in ProTools is because it use to have all the best plugins. Now with TC Powercore and Universal Audio UAD-1 cards and also some high end VST plugs (Waves, PSP etc...) it doesn't really have so much advantage. I know some people who think that Pro Tools sounds better than Logic; different algorithms etc... I also know former ProTools preachers who have sold their systems and are now using Logic with RME gear and have never looked back. Don't forget ProTools will obviously sound better with the TDM or HD versions (US$10000+) than with a Digi 001 with it's version of ProTools Software. Mastering is an art in itself, having and knowing how to use the tools is of course necessary, however learning how to use your ears is the most important thing. For some great value plugins (much cheaper than Waves) try http://www.pspaudioware.com/Some info on mastering. beginner's guide to mastering at: http://www.computermusic.co.uk/tutorial/ma.../mastering1.aspand a guide by Bob Katz (The Secret of the Mastering Engineer) at http://www.tcelectronic.com/static.asp?page=bob_katzMatt
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Wed 28 Aug 2002, 11:42
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Mastering software is like everything else with computer music - everyone has their favourite apps and any magic tool that gets universal approval and is coveted by everyone is likely to cost hundreds, maybe thousands, of pounds (or dollars or euros or whatever). The more people you ask, the more confused you can get!
The Waves plug-ins are well-regarded. I use them with Logic and I also use the T-Racks set, which is cheaper but still very good and easy to use (IMHO). For the money, both of these do a professional job to my ears.
I don't think it really matters what you use, to be honest. If it's at least halfway decent and you know how to use it and you've had a lot of practice with mastering your music, you'll get pleasing results.
Format's links are a good introduction to the subject and I'm sure there are thousands more out there. You could also try the book "Basic Mastering" by Paul White (Sanctuary Publishing, about £5) for a good explanation of what it is you should be doing.
If it sounds right, it IS right!
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Thu 29 Aug 2002, 09:42
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If i'm mastering a bunch of songs for a CD i put the songs in toast or jam and in the right order and create a disk immage.Then i open it up in Peak VST.The trak markers or index points are visible and i do fade ins @outs and time between songs all non destructve. I can also compare songs for continuity and level so as to get a feel and flow for the finished CD.I like Peak better than Logic for audio editing.The Waves plugs are great but dont overdo loudness. As a rule digital is the go for corrective eq and analogue for sweetening.I use an avalon 747 for this and it makes my mixes sound more lush. Ive also used a pair of quad ( british valve hi fi preamps and much cheaper than the avalon) to get nice or over driven sound.I have a budget monitoring setup that workes well.I use a sansui AU555 hi fi amp.They are good and at the back you can bypass the pre-amp and plug directly into the power amp stage.(purer signal).I use B@W 601 hi fi speakers.They handle the punchy sounds well @ are accurate but lack a bit in the mids.I check the mids with Mordant Short MS 10s .On an old mac i run a spectrum analyser and compare Bernie Grundman or other professionaly mastered CDs to the job i'm doing.I enjoy mastering but have to work within a budget as we do so i hope these tips help
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Thu 29 Aug 2002, 23:41
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Thanks for the link! Did you find it from 4 posts above. Matt
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Thu 29 Aug 2002, 23:46
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For more tips and tricks try http://www.sospubs.co.uk/and search "Mastering" Matt
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Fri 30 Aug 2002, 02:03
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Here is Bob Katz's web site. www.digido.com He used to work at Chesky Records,they do high resoludion,(ie 24 bit 96k digital recordings) for the audiophile marketThey also have a good reference CD .Bob has his own company called Digital Domain.
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