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Thu 29 Dec 2005, 04:49
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I gave in to trying ivory,the self-proclaimed greatest virtual piano ever made,and i am very impressed.It has 10 dvds and you need 2G ram they recommend.Being mainly a piano player i thought i would get a good piano,which it is. The only thing i wonder,on a real piano ,when you slowly press down say a bass key so the hammer moves too slowly to strike a string and hold them down,then strike a higher note or notes,the lower bass notes that are being held down will sound,they will resonate clearly till released.This doesn't happen in ivory at all,in fact you cannot even slowly press on a key without a note sounding.Maybe this sounds a little petty but when i hear a claim such as from these software companies,all of them,the thing should really mimic the instrument in all aspects.Especially since it costs so much.So i have to question the way these geniuses really do record these instruments,note for note with such perfection,as they claim.Nothin like the real thing folks,but who can afford that?
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Thu 29 Dec 2005, 22:22
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hey frank, I myself am mainly a piano player literally the ONLY one handed, one hookt (left side) piano player extraordinaire' in the World dedicated to keepin' the Blues 'n' Jazz genre's alive. unless you know of any others? [www.michaelthehookdeutsch.com] is my site, go there and click 'see hook's documentary' you'll see what I mean. I myself prefer a real piano over the electro's sampled bull, I've found when I own one that the Roland FP8 model had the best real piano sound overall with the weighted keys and all. Especially when hookt (no pun intended) up in the stereo mode, records nicely that way, no-one can tell the difference except my discerning ears. My experience with the electro keys though, for me 'cause being a 1 pawed player I basicly rely on the sustain pedal on a piano, the keyboards per se' do NOT have enough length in sustainance per seconds for my playin'. I dig workin' with overtones 'n' undertones, but I also delve the painting of sounds, eg, movie music, soundtrack type stuff, Tangerine Dream, Kitaro, etc. As far as the answer to your ? Roland uses the multi sampled way by having the pianists play then they sample each note under every possible circumstance, but as far touch goes there ain't no way they can get the actual action of a real piano because it is ONLY numbers, technology is not there yet? I don't think we'll see that in our lifetime IF? that'll happen at all. sounds to me like your gettin' the old sales bullsh?? so they talk'll you into buying something else of their product just to (pardon my yiddish) shut you up, 'til you do? DON'T!! Keep doin' what you do though, music IS what makes the world go round, all the waves in air keep the axis on it's even keal. I wish you all the success that you rightly deserve, and when you go the current tv site that my doc.'ll take you to, if you have anything to submit? by all means do it, great exposure to the world, eventually we'll rule the world Brain. as Pinky would say, tee hee, Peace out 'til next we meet, Michael the"Hook" Deutsch 612.378.9173 "nuthin' but a real piano!!" "Spread the love, Share the peace
This post has been edited by imhookt1: Thu 29 Dec 2005, 22:33
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Fri 30 Dec 2005, 15:50
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Michael, You say it well. It really will be some time (if ever) before any machine can emulate all the possible sympathetic overtone combinations of all the possible ways of actually playing a real piano. The variables available on the real instrument in the hands of an accomplished player are infinite. The mathematics involved is huge, and, as you say, when it's all boiled down to numbers, it's the mathematics of the computer that do the work. The same of course must be said of any other instrument.
As a fellow composer said to me once: "Want to know what's the best String Machine in the world?" (Remember that old term 'string machine'?) He pointed to Place des Arts (Montreal's symphony hall) one day as we drove down St. Urbain St. I don't expect any of us will live long enough to hear the plastic thing sound as good as the real thing. And I think that goes for all things, musical or otherwise.
Happy Holidays to all, and never, never stop playing music.
Jack McCann
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Fri 30 Dec 2005, 21:29
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I think Ivory is the closest to the real thing I've ever heard!
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Fri 30 Dec 2005, 22:52
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Ivory is amazing. I use it going through my favorite compression/eq plug ins.... I love playing piano again!
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