Old Nord Modular Editor, what to call the editor in OMS setup ? Options

[Jaysee]

Hi, as I'm STILL awaiting the arrival of my G5, Kurzweil 2661 and other gear, I've been twiddling my thumbs fiddling about with my old nord modular (older 2oct keyboard version) on my even more elderly imac 400MHz. I never got the hang of either the nord editor........ or OS9 come to that. That pesky OMS setup confuses the hell out of me.

Are there any nord modular owners out there who can advise me on what one's expected to name the 'other' nord modular connected via the 'pc' in and out sockets?,(as opposed to the regular nord modular midi in+out ones). It doesnt like device 1 and 2 having the samename I eventually got it working (although I cant recall how! 'twas a late night.)after hours of trying to convince OMS that the editor was in fact a nord lead etc etc

I think perhaps when I get all the gear I'm waiting for up and running I might keep the imac in OS9 as a dedicated nord editor.....quite separate from the regular nord midi in+outs going to to the G5 and DP4.
Can you tell I'm sulking over not being able to use nords new fancy colour updated modular editor with my older model:-(
cheers.

[jjneumann]

Hi,

I'm not familiar with the level of use of OMS you are after, but thought you should know that there is a beta version of the Nord modular editor for OS X. You want at least version D, I think. It has some bugs, like you can't rename modules, but all the important functions work.

The beta version is not officially released by Clavia, but was discussed repeatedly on the Nord modular mailing list. You should download it and try it out if you want to get away from using OS 9.

Good luck,
John

[Arnolfo]

You'll find the OSX editor here: http://www.bittersound.com/nord/index.html

[Jaysee]

Thanks all for the OSX nord modular editor advice and links. The nord's a great bit of kit, but its very naughty, considering the cost of their synths of Clavia not to make their new 'colour' OSX version of the editor backwards compatible though.....such is life I guess.
cheers again, jaysee

[lepetitmartien]

Are there any nord modular owners out there who can advise me on what one's expected to name the 'other' nord modular connected via the 'pc' in and out sockets?,(as opposed to the regular nord modular midi in+out ones). It doesnt like device 1 and 2 having the samename I eventually got it working (although I cant recall how! 'twas a late night.)after hours of trying to convince OMS that the editor was in fact a nord lead etc etc

Well…

Save the MIDI ports of the NM you should NOT SEE the PC ports of the editor or of the NM in OMS!!!

You you messed up wile trying to figure it out… uninstall completly OMS and start from the begining. Allocate the MIDI stuff in OMS to the MIDI ports where you have the MIDI in/out of the NM and don't bother there with the PC ports.

Remember the PC ports are MIDI BUT were only a roundabout found by Clavia to be able to make the NM communicate with the Editor. The Editor should find the ports used easily if you have a decent MIDI interface (NMs hate noisy underspeced interfaces, I've seen the results with old midiman small interfaces) and you should show him the way from inside (dive in the menus… I don't have it running)

If you have troubles connecting the editor, there certainly something wrong with your MIDI setup, NMs are touchy this way.

The OSX editor is 95% functionnal (some parts are touchy, but you can work your way around) so you can have a look on it once you dive in OS X.

For troubleshouting and other stuff the Modularlist is a must (I'm there too The modularlist is now at electro-music.com

[Jaysee]

Hi lepetitmartien, thanks for the advice on my nord modular problem. I *think* I understand what you mean on the OMS thing, but I'll have to re read it a couple more times. I screwed up trying to get a 'freemidi' set up too sorted out too, so its definately *me*.

Thanks also for the nord link, I'll definately try to get on that list.
I must admit I'm very impressed by the OSX edit page, it seems to work flawlessly on mine; at least with the banks of nord sounds I downloaded a while ago from Clavia's site. I'll get around to authoring my own new sounds from scratch eventually, up to now I just stare slack jawed at the screen trying to figure out what roles various modules can possibly be playing in the sounds I'm hearing!

"The Editor should find the ports used easily if you have a decent MIDI interface (NMs hate noisy underspeced interfaces, I've seen the results with old midiman small interfaces)"

Oh dear, I've been using a midiman 2x2 up to now but a 4x4 should be arriving any time soon (with all the other damned hardware I ordered two or three *months* ago.)
Thanks again, John C.

[lepetitmartien]

The midiman problem is not only midiman's, but I've seen it about 2 years ago at a friend's house in direct. Very funny… It was even giving random notes But the behaviour of the editor was erratic too. Some on the modularlist have had trouble to maintain if they had, connection between the editor and the NM. Just because they weren't up to specs on the MIDI side

Note that at the time, most midisport 2X2 were ok. Only a bunch did some noise

I forgot one thing, if you use for example Logic, it'll try to eat up ALL midi ports. You must do some trick to tell Logoic not to even think of it for the editor ports. Sorry I don't remember which (I'm not a logic user).

Now if I'm summing things: (with some addendum while I think of it)
- leave the midi ports of the editor alone in OMS
- assign them directly in the editor
- check cables and interface, one other trick is to put the 2 pairs of midi ports on different interfaces (it did the trick for some)
- if you have a sequencer running, like Logic, tell it to leave the ports for the editor alone.