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Posted by: hotlunch Fri 5 Aug 2005, 03:32

I'm trying to get into recording bands on location. I am not shure of a few thinkgs like, how to handle the house engineer. Is His word is the way?
How Much would you charge for a multi track digital recording, Any ideas on how to Judge cost. Any general advice for Doing on location recording for small bands. Any advice/stories would be great. any websites wih articles or stories of advce about on location recording/culture would also be great. Any ideas of finding a mentor in south lake tahoe and becoming a millionair?
thanks

Posted by: coldharbour Tue 23 Aug 2005, 23:27

It all depends on so many things.

Are all instruments miked? Are you responsible in miking the instruments? Are you also mixing the live performance or just tapping an inhouse livedesk? Are you using your own gear or is it inhouse?

Posted by: ArchivalAudio Wed 24 Aug 2005, 07:08

I've been Recording Live Shows since 1986
because I like to and want to....
If you have experience thats cool, if not you're gonna have to do it free for a while to get that experience....so many bands are Taper friendly, they want to be recorded... you can do a google seard for Bands That Allow Taping (BTAT)
yes ther are so many considerations...
Are you working for the BAND? will you have an agreement...yes youalways have to be nice to the House Sound engineer, unless you'll be mixing you'll need them as a friend.
Areyougonna take direct outs fromthe House PA?
I run usuallyh a stereo Array ( a pair set 110° ORTF) on the front of the stage+ the House PA (with luck that's stereo) and do 4-track....
great results.
depends on whatyouand the band are looking for soundwise.

I do this for many bands becuse I love thier Music...
I have never figure out how to actually get paid to do this,if you do let me know...
I have helped many bands relesae current live recordings....
if your looking for Upand Comingbands...lets face it they have notmuch $ or a way to pay you....
somebands are now utilizing the Real Image Recording option...allowing fanz to leave the show with recordings of the nites gig...
what do you expect and want from this...
generally most bands that allow recording usually reserve the right to actually own the music....meaning if they come out with a live recording that THEY own the rights and not you...

you'll need somekind of contracts etc

good luck and
produce a quality product!

-- Ian

Posted by: hotlunch Thu 25 Aug 2005, 20:46

Thanks for the advice. I've heard that you can pay the bills if you can get a good recordeding from a live show, but it seems that I should take peoples advice with a grainofsalt. Someone house engineer told me he makes about 300$ for recording a show, and the venue is only about 400 people. I know about working with the house enginneer and have a setup to plug into his system and setup some of my own mics. Laptop multitrack with some pre's and such.

I'm trying to figure out my options for jobs that will keep me close to music. I have invested some money and like recording so I thought that I would try to see if the equipment would payfor itself after awhile.

Anyclues on how the guys at festivals get their jobs, what they use, or any general info. Working at Bonaroo or High seirra music Fest would be a great way to spend my summer.

Posted by: ianstonehouse Fri 26 Aug 2005, 14:32

It's etiquette, not eticuette btw