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Do you use MacOS X?
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I will install it later [ 94 ] ** [10.40%]
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Francois Déchery
post Sun 6 Oct 2002, 12:59
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With the new Jaguar (OS 10.2) , and the coming major music apps, how do you feel about it?


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post Sun 6 Oct 2002, 14:50
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QUOTE (webmaster @ Oct 6 2002, 11:59)
With the new Jaguar (OS 10.2) , and the coming major music apps, how do you feel about it?

I feel just like I did when the major music apps were still coming under OS 10.1.x. They are still coming.

Until somebody shows me something Logic can do that DP can't do as well (and nobody has yet), I will not pay the premium for Logic. Beyond that, Logic under OS X still has a whole list of important things "coming," so it's not even a fully working package yet as far as I'm concerned. (I also vowed back in the '80s that I would never, ever, under any circumstances support any software that required a hardware dongle--which are like cabinet locks in a daycare--and I have no plans for ever breaking that vow, but that's a separate issue.) So I certainly am not moving full music production over to X in Logic at this point

Until there is a fully functioning DAW+MIDI package for OS X, I'll be in the using OS X "for everything else" category. Serious music production just is not an option for me without a complete, intact work flow that doesn't require bouncing in and out of operating systems. It's too schizophrenic. blink.gif

It's always been bad enough having to bounce in and out of various programs, or going through what it's always been necessary to go through to get several disparate proprietary packages to work in sync, since we are this many decades into the use of computers, and *nobody* has ever actually produced a complete solution. That's exactly why we have to have "fixes" like OMS, FreeMIDI, ASIO, VST wrappers, ReWire--the host of "cures" that are sometimes almost as bad as the disease. We have the promise that Core Audio and Core MIDI and Audio Units are supposed to make life oh-so-much easier, but apparently even those are going to be no panacea, and so ASIO and ReWire are both still going to be required, both depending utterly on the whimsical cooperation of independent developers to implement them at all, and, if so, to implement them correctly and effectively. To the degree they don't, we'll continue to shell out money for needed apps that won't talk to each other, or, when they try, stutter. unsure.gif

I do believe (hope springs eternal) that somewhere not too far up the road there will be a choice of working, effective DAW+MIDI programs in OS X, and that things actually will be better than they were in OS 9. But right now it ain't. So I'm in the "for everything else" category.

P.S. I inadvertently hit the wrong button on the poll, and got myself a nice, shiny, useless "null vote" entered, apparently, that I cannot shed, change, orphan, abandon, or disclaim. If anybody knows how I can change it, please let me know. Otherwise, please mentally tote up one more "for everything else" vote. huh.gif smile.gif
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- Soif   Do you use MacOS X?   Sun 6 Oct 2002, 12:59
- - Doug Miner   I have been using Jaguar with Deck and Intuem for ...   Sun 6 Oct 2002, 15:10
- - hughster   Right now, Jaguar with the TASCAM US-428 is unusab...   Mon 7 Oct 2002, 03:36
- - filarion   I'm using Ableton Live and Spark XL (still mis...   Mon 7 Oct 2002, 13:11
- - metachor   I just purchased one of those 1.25 gHz dual/proc g...   Mon 7 Oct 2002, 19:14
- - HauiB   [FONT=Impact][SIZE=7][COLOR=blue]I have 10.2, A M-...   Wed 9 Oct 2002, 02:34
- - ruxx   The sad fact of the matter for anyone using MOTU a...   Thu 10 Oct 2002, 11:06
- - PlasTree   The biggest issue for me concerning the transition...   Thu 10 Oct 2002, 23:51
- - kaboombahchuck   I's sticking with 9 untill hell freezes over, ...   Fri 11 Oct 2002, 00:24
- - Fungus   I love the stability of X. I can easily go a month...   Fri 11 Oct 2002, 08:04
- - gayajay   I'm a newbie to this mb. I just had to jump i...   Sun 13 Oct 2002, 06:06
- - III777III   If you like OSX then get Jaguar, i chave 2 cinema...   Sun 13 Oct 2002, 10:21
- - Teiwaz   For music, it's OS9 for the foreseeable future...   Sun 17 Nov 2002, 01:50
- - Organism   I've been using Logic 5 under OS X for several...   Sun 17 Nov 2002, 04:23
- - powermacg4_450   OS X rules! Anyone NOT using it is missing out...   Tue 19 Nov 2002, 01:23
- - macmad   QUOTE (webmaster @ Oct 6 2002, 11:59)With the...   Fri 17 Jan 2003, 00:42
- - beefpile   Since I have now my update to Logic 5 and Audiower...   Mon 20 Jan 2003, 13:15
- - Doug Miner   The stability of OSX makes it my choice. It is roc...   Mon 20 Jan 2003, 17:27
- - ryosode   My OS 9 has gone R.I.P. for months. I am making mu...   Tue 21 Jan 2003, 08:30
- - Joeflyer59   I'm a little frustrated, because I LOVE OS 10....   Wed 22 Jan 2003, 01:38
- - rickenbacker   Joey b - Edirol have some nice OS X-ready audio in...   Wed 22 Jan 2003, 11:20
- - 3phase   I am a bit trapped with my new powerbook gigaherz,...   Tue 4 Feb 2003, 14:05
- - Metatron   I just bought an new 867 DP for e1479 and am amaze...   Sun 9 Feb 2003, 11:50
- - nero   I'm running OS X on a 1gHz tiBook using Cubase...   Mon 10 Feb 2003, 09:18
- - sazerac   I have had warm and fuzzy feelings for Logic 5.5 c...   Thu 20 Feb 2003, 02:37
- - pjsaccone   I can't even THINK of using OSX! The OSX d...   Sat 22 Feb 2003, 11:43
- - baronemc   QUOTE (webmaster @ Oct 6 2002, 11:59)With the...   Fri 28 Feb 2003, 20:29
- - FrankBlack   I use a yamaha keyboard, a delta 44 card & box...   Sun 9 Mar 2003, 08:01
- - snoozebutton   Wow, I had no idea this site was so 9-biased(haha ...   Sun 16 Mar 2003, 05:01
- - tacoboy   Im an OS9 Logic user. Why? Cos for some whacky rea...   Sun 6 Apr 2003, 16:17
- - dixiechicken   Part of the problem with the appearent lack of sea...   Thu 10 Apr 2003, 19:59
- - tobor   well... I'm into "I use it for everything...   Tue 15 Apr 2003, 11:24
- - dixiechicken   Logic 6, Pro Tools 6 and Digital Performer4. DP4/M...   Tue 15 Apr 2003, 12:14
- - dixiechicken   First sentence of last post - should end: "is...   Tue 15 Apr 2003, 12:16
- - Doxxic   QUOTE (hughster @ Oct 7 2002, 02:36)Right now...   Mon 21 Apr 2003, 10:53
- - xingu   Doxxic, that's a very old post you're refe...   Mon 21 Apr 2003, 16:44
- - PowerMacG5   OSX rules. for music or anything. I could never us...   Mon 8 Sep 2003, 20:35
- - Synthetic   QUOTE (PowerMacG5 @ Sep 8 2003, 13:35)OSX rul...   Mon 8 Sep 2003, 22:13
- - PlasTree   Ditto. I'd love to run exclusively on osX with...   Mon 8 Sep 2003, 22:43
- - fingers   The only thing i miss about os9 is the nostalgia i...   Fri 30 Apr 2004, 10:53
- - dolawren   I use Panther OSX 10.3.4 mostly for composing musi...   Sat 24 Jul 2004, 23:28
- - gkdoty   I use OS X 10.3.4 for everything and I use OS 9 Cl...   Sun 25 Jul 2004, 00:36
- - divan   PB G3 333 - with OS 9.2 - sometimes angry, sometim...   Sun 25 Jul 2004, 10:01
- - Essentia   Im using 10.3 Panther which owns   Wed 5 Jan 2005, 22:31
- - jimmy2can   Im using OS 10.4 with Reason and Garage Band. I al...   Mon 6 Jun 2005, 05:45
- - Schmange   I've been wanting to upgrade from OS9 and SCSI...   Sat 11 Jun 2005, 23:49


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