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Posted by: sonoton Thu 24 Apr 2003, 13:29

I've recently bought an Edirol PCR30. I've had no problem to play/control softsynth (reason,pro52,fm7....) via IAC bus but i can't find a way to play/control or record my Akai S3000 into PTF.
This is my setup

*iMac DV 400Mhz

*MOTU midi express XT
midi 1: Akai S3000
smpt in : Umatic video deck

*Edirol PCR30
usb port

I'm not sure where my sampler should be in my setup ( to play/record in PTF).

I've tried with using the physical midi port O/I on the Edirol to O/ I on the sampler -no success. I've tried daisy chained the Edirol and Akai to the midi 1 of Midi express, but...nope.....
Could that be my OMS settings?

I don't know it seems like i've tried so many things... i'm a bit confused.

I would appreciate any fresh thoughts to my problem

Thanks in advance

Posted by: Synthetic Thu 24 Apr 2003, 14:38

ok... do you have any audio interface or how are you running actual "sound" to your imac? I just wanted to make sure you knew that midi doesn't transmit audio and you never mentioned how you had sampler audio output connected to imac unless that is what the Umatic video deck does for you. And if that is the case... PTF might not be able to pull in audio from that. I think I remember that it only works with the built in sound manager and thus audio input is limited to the mic input maybe but not sure.

But ideally, you would want to connect midi out from Edirol to the Akai midi input and then you would need to run the audio ouput of Akai back into the imac either via mic input or a USB or Firewire audio interface. You may still be limited what is possible with the ProTools Free app (that is why its free).

Posted by: sonoton Fri 25 Apr 2003, 15:41

The audio from the sampler is going into a mixer. I will bounce the midi to audio at a later stage (via line input of the sound manager).
And as for the Umatic, well i'm doing the sound design for a documentary so I need sound to be synched up with the picture. I'm feeding the smpt timecode into midi express which sends a midi timecode to PTF. And that runs online perfectly!

But what i can't figure out is how can i play my samples from the midi keyboard. At the moment i can play my samples from the midi track (piano roll down) within PTF fine. The sampler midi I is connected to the midi keyboard O (thanks Synth tone) which is conected to the iMac via USB port. Still it's like the midi keyboard is invisible. (and i ticked the various ports of the Edirol-two usb ones- and the sampler in Midi Input device Menu).

Any clues?

Thanks for your help.