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> Bss M-250's, SCAM Don't buy them!!!
mupp
post Fri 15 Aug 2003, 19:31
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I have got my hands on a pair of brand new BSS m-250 loudspeaker studio monitors and i was wondering if anyone could tell me anything about them (i.e. their value, and where i could sell such items)

Any help would be much appreciated smile.gif
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SacredJ
post Fri 24 Jun 2005, 13:00
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hi everyone, I have been conned too!
I am a student from Utrecht, The Netherlands, and have bought the BSS M250 speakers last May 2005 for 150 Euros. I do not feel the pain of getting ripped off as hard as other people, cause paid much less then them. But still it isn't cool to find out its all a big woldwide scam. Still the same story; 3 guys white van, 1 american and 2 english, saying they were installing a big sound-studio for a radiostation here in Utrecht. After a long negotiation bout the price starting from €1000, I got them to install the speakers at my place, do a sound-test (they sounded great!) and then paid them a wopping €150.
After all this I got the Dutch cell-phone number of the American guy and his American drivers-license (I didn't thrust these guys afterall but liked the price I got for the speakers). Don't know if it was a fake ID and I don't know if I'm allowed to post these here, but I just will for all the conned people out there:
Dutch cellphone: 06-42258278

American Drivers License:
Number: S72348422
date of birth: 06-18-1981
name: Charles D. Haverty
adress: 735 Haverhill Street, Reading MA (massachusettes)
phone or area code?: 01807-1130

I also found this official message from BSS Britain's bulletin board
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BSS (Brooke Siren Systems) Audio Ltd do not, never have and have no plans to ever build any speakers.  The "BSS" M250 & S400 speakers are allegedly built by a swedish company Brendal Sound Systems but I say allegedly as no one as ever heard of them. On average we get 4 or 5 calls a week from people who have been offered or sold these speakers from the driver of a "white van", sometimes on the street, at service stations, car parks etc. I have been offered them myself under various guises over the last 3 or 4 years. This is part of a somewhat dubious "con" trick. They say the speakers are "left over" and they'll sell them to you for a cash figure (around £250??) which is well below the fictional list price of around £1000. Sometimes you even get  a number for the office to confirm the list price. A bargain! Well, no because from my experience these speakers could be put together for around £50.  Legally it is in a grey area and it is extremely difficult for anything to be done except to not buy these speakers. If you have bought these speakers and are unhappy I believe your only recourse is to contact your local Trading Standards office.


Hope somebody catches these guys,

SacredJ, Utrecht, Netherlands

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- mupp   Bss M-250's   Fri 15 Aug 2003, 19:31
- - bristolguy   Let me guess. From a guy in a transit van - both c...   Mon 18 Aug 2003, 20:28
- - yvesvl   Unbelievable ! A friend of me just (5 min ago...   Mon 10 Nov 2003, 16:12
- - Just Been Scammed   Just bought a pair, BSS M-250 Loudspeakers about 2...   Tue 25 Nov 2003, 17:31
- - lepetitmartien   Could you post a decent pic of them so people can ...   Wed 26 Nov 2003, 04:04
- - tobz   I managed to get swindled with these damn speakers...   Mon 1 Dec 2003, 23:06
|- - Jon2pitter   QUOTE (tobz @ Tue 2 Dec 2003, 00:06) I m...   Wed 24 Oct 2018, 05:47
- - zagadka   It has happened to me as well... 3 days ago... I f...   Wed 10 Dec 2003, 22:50
- - tallpaul2011   £250 quid! aaghggghhh!, Two men, white...   Thu 11 Dec 2003, 20:17
- - scrypt   The same scam has been pulled in the States for qu...   Sun 14 Dec 2003, 10:10
- - TOMi   Propper gutted! I'm a (now extremely skint...   Thu 22 Jan 2004, 12:47
|- - mortalengines   I am sorry to hear about all of this....this kind ...   Sat 6 Sep 2008, 05:00
- - bristolguy   I should point out that on doing research on these...   Thu 22 Jan 2004, 20:18
- - Steve999   Has anyone managed to sell on these speakers? How ...   Sun 29 Feb 2004, 16:51
- - newrigel   Man I've seen those clowns all the time @ plac...   Mon 1 Mar 2004, 20:17
- - Hellhamster   These guys were just in Bristol this afternoon (Ma...   Thu 11 Mar 2004, 16:44
- - StevieBoy   Sorry to be a killjoy (maybe that's not quite ...   Fri 12 Mar 2004, 09:26
- - Hellhamster   The point is that they trick you. THey dont just ...   Fri 12 Mar 2004, 11:25
- - Dsourza   I bought a pair myself some years ago, 250£ Ultima...   Fri 12 Mar 2004, 16:39
- - tecnical   speaker scam now in wale's u.k mate of mine ne...   Tue 23 Mar 2004, 21:41
- - wolfeye   So.... These guys seem to appear in Sweden nowaday...   Thu 22 Apr 2004, 15:21
- - scritz   Hi! Sadly enough i found this forum to late.....   Sat 8 May 2004, 23:21
- - boulou   Hi, I hope I had read this forum earlier, I got ca...   Fri 4 Jun 2004, 20:30
- - zenstalinist   250 watts IS a scam... I've read numerous acc...   Mon 14 Jun 2004, 16:41
- - scrypt   QUOTE (bristolguy @ Jan 22 2004, 19:18). . . ...   Mon 14 Jun 2004, 21:33
- - marrakoost   just want to inform anyone that gets scammed that ...   Fri 9 Jul 2004, 13:55
- - angryfather   The bastards appeared in Farnborough Hants yesterd...   Thu 16 Sep 2004, 23:11
- - londonboy   Likewise - just got done today in Norwich in the U...   Tue 5 Oct 2004, 16:40
- - MessyPup   I am also in Salford Uni, He stopped me on Seaford...   Thu 7 Oct 2004, 14:31
- - sa77   Hello everybody. Im from Sweden, and i have a st...   Sun 10 Oct 2004, 14:23
- - fictionmusic   This whole thing is very weird. The same thing hap...   Tue 12 Oct 2004, 02:37
- - sa77   " fictionmusic" Did the speakers name w...   Tue 12 Oct 2004, 09:19
- - lepetitmartien   It's just INSANE this swindle is still up and ...   Thu 14 Oct 2004, 03:39
- - ashem   FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF...!!!!...   Thu 14 Oct 2004, 15:34
- - fictionmusic   QUOTE (sa77 @ Oct 12 2004, 08:19)" ficti...   Thu 14 Oct 2004, 20:41
- - sa77   QUOTE (fictionmusic @ Oct 14 2004, 19:41)QUOT...   Thu 14 Oct 2004, 21:17
- - londonboy   On the question of what they are worth: I just ma...   Thu 14 Oct 2004, 21:26
- - MessyPup   Hey, there is a lot of upset people out their over...   Thu 21 Oct 2004, 12:02
- - ashem   to tell the truth, I haven't tried them yet......   Thu 21 Oct 2004, 18:12
- - lepetitmartien   Uh oh… it's for the classifieds this post pl...   Fri 22 Oct 2004, 05:22
- - ExoXile   HAHA!... My dad bought thesame speakers, mini-...   Wed 27 Oct 2004, 19:19
- - souljor   same happened to my friend 3 days ago in nottingha...   Tue 30 Nov 2004, 12:48
- - alistevenson   Well peps, is 1:30pm and about hour ago same thing...   Tue 7 Dec 2004, 14:44
- - scrambles   http://www.scamshield.com This scam really is ama...   Wed 8 Dec 2004, 20:05
- - LindseyTantrum   Two of my friends have just bought these speakers ...   Fri 10 Dec 2004, 13:35
- - souljor   theres obviously alot of them running this operati...   Fri 10 Dec 2004, 14:24
- - fictionmusic   I imagine this secret warehouse full of crappy spe...   Fri 10 Dec 2004, 16:56
- - lepetitmartien   Maybe it's space invaders working on the earth...   Fri 10 Dec 2004, 17:37
- - fbeyer   it seems to me the two guys are just doing a bit o...   Sat 11 Dec 2004, 11:13
- - fbeyer   so that's true. so I do seem to start every s...   Sat 11 Dec 2004, 11:15
- - redcoat   on my honour im not an easily angered man but i su...   Thu 20 Jan 2005, 02:33
- - smalls   Yep, they're in cardiff today, just got done, ...   Fri 21 Jan 2005, 15:01
- - lepetitmartien   At least some police is on them! sigh! ...   Fri 21 Jan 2005, 18:16
- - smalls   Just had chat with police, they cant do shit.. its...   Sat 22 Jan 2005, 00:04
- - redcoat   they are the very wankers that got me. i swear th...   Sat 22 Jan 2005, 01:31
- - eightspeeder   well, I have to say it was a good scam. they had m...   Sun 23 Jan 2005, 15:52
- - eightspeeder   and one more thing... that whole "well, they...   Sun 23 Jan 2005, 16:15
- - redcoat   well i have a clean criminal record but im happy t...   Mon 24 Jan 2005, 00:52
- - Rass   This happened to a friend of mine today (27th Jan)...   Thu 27 Jan 2005, 20:42
- - simonjlr   The same thing just happened to a mate of mine 2...   Fri 28 Jan 2005, 17:20
- - panos   yeh, im the idiot mate of 'Simonjlr' above...   Fri 28 Jan 2005, 19:30
- - Steely   Hey,the same thing happened to me last Thursday ab...   Mon 31 Jan 2005, 16:24
- - lepetitmartien   It's time some authority handle the problem, o...   Mon 31 Jan 2005, 18:07
- - mrminnitt   Seems to me that if the police have their numberpl...   Tue 1 Feb 2005, 19:39
- - panos   nah, they wouldnt be using their proper number pla...   Tue 1 Feb 2005, 19:42
- - mrminnitt   [SIZE=7]Does anyone happen to know for sure what t...   Wed 2 Feb 2005, 17:44
- - Oldencaulfield1   These ho's scammed me yesterday in Portsmouth ...   Wed 2 Feb 2005, 22:43
- - mrminnitt   I was also scammed in Portsmouth at the shell gara...   Thu 3 Feb 2005, 12:14
- - redcoat   yep, the same guys that got me, and im certain to ...   Fri 4 Feb 2005, 00:34
- - Huggie   I live in New Zealand. I hope these guys come down...   Fri 4 Feb 2005, 01:49
- - gogmagog   i know a few people who have been had by these bas...   Fri 4 Feb 2005, 15:40
- - lepetitmartien   Keep things legal please. (even if I can understan...   Sat 5 Feb 2005, 01:25
- - nmetzgen   My housemate was in the process of buying these sp...   Tue 8 Feb 2005, 16:31
- - eric blair   Any one had any luck selling their speakers? The w...   Sun 13 Feb 2005, 02:11
- - woodstockric   I too had dealings with the "Men In The White...   Sun 13 Feb 2005, 15:58
- - petter   Well, "they" are in Sweden as well now...   Wed 16 Feb 2005, 10:42
- - smalls   Well i say "FUCK THE LAW" in this case. ...   Wed 16 Feb 2005, 19:03
- - curlyroman   hello. they got me too when i was a poor student i...   Tue 22 Feb 2005, 22:36
- - TimmyDome   QUOTE (zagadka @ Dec 10 2003, 21:50)It has ha...   Mon 7 Mar 2005, 16:40
- - CptAnalog   These people even use the want ads to recruit ...   Sun 20 Mar 2005, 11:14
- - Bogdan   This story is so funny . I will expect the guys wi...   Thu 24 Mar 2005, 00:09
- - ViRuS52   No... no... it cant be true... NOOOOOO!!...   Tue 16 Aug 2005, 10:27
- - Callum   Hello, Im a student from Glasgow. Paid...   Mon 13 Feb 2006, 16:08
- - panaira   Hi gys, Just saw a pair on ebay and really liked t...   Mon 20 Feb 2006, 20:31
- - bssm250   Hey guys, I have one of these speakers in really ...   Tue 2 Sep 2008, 12:12
- - lepetitmartien   Please guys, for classifieds, NOT in the forums, u...   Fri 5 Sep 2008, 19:50
- - dave123trowel   Hi everyone... Brendle speaker systems are a compa...   Wed 17 Dec 2008, 00:39


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