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Posted by: CatloveX Tue 25 Apr 2006, 00:07

Hi,

I'm wondering, which is the best actual hardware TB303 emulator: X0xb0x? Future Retro Revolution? Studio Electronics ATC? Oakley 3031?

Thanks in advance for your answers.

Posted by: lepetitmartien Fri 28 Apr 2006, 03:56

XoBoX is a recreation of the 303. I don't think you can be more faithful.
Revolution is another thing altogether not a 303 clone, never touched one but the 777 they did before.
the ATC is way way more versatile and a "real" monosynth.
The Oakley 3031 is a monosynth based on the 303.

If you want a limited groovebox, inspired by but not the 303, I'd try the revolution.
If you want the 303 recreated, go XoBoX.
if you want a synth sounding like the 303 (closely) but not the sequencer, go Oakley. Paul makes great stuff.
If you want a real monosynth, go ATCx. It's a really great synth altogether way more capable than a 303 (which is a very bad synth in fact, just don't tell the aficionados wink.gif

Posted by: Analog Kid Sun 30 Jul 2006, 20:13

Actually, the Revolution can get fairly close, although I haven't had the luxury to A/B them directly. Admittedly, though, if I could trade my Rev for a Devil Fish I'd jump at the chance.
Although it may be blasphemous to say, AudioRealism's BassLine Pro is something you should really check out... even if in the final analysis it's short of analog, it really is one of the nicest analog emulations in software.

Posted by: LaMort Tue 13 Mar 2007, 02:49

You want blasphemous, being a former TB303 owner, nothing beats Propellerheads ReBirth software, nothing.

Posted by: lepetitmartien Tue 13 Mar 2007, 04:20

regardless to the qualities of the Revolution (haven't touch one yet so…) I happened to learn tonight that the lithium battery which is soldered, has a life expectancy of about a year… So guys, save your patterns regularly outside the Revolution and when it goes haywire, spend a few bucks into a battery holder for less headaches… (be careful while desoldering the Lithium battery, don't heat it, use protections for the eyes)

On a technical issue, the Rebirth software is sample based (wave forms) for me it's a big no-no.

Posted by: LaMort Fri 16 Mar 2007, 03:06

QUOTE (lepetitmartien @ Mon 12 Mar 2007, 23:20) *
On a technical issue, the Rebirth software is sample based (wave forms) for me it's a big no-no.


Actually only the 909 and 808 on Rebirth is sample-based, the 303 is digital modeled not sample-based, it was one of the first modeled synths! The topic here is 303 emulation not the 808/909 emulation and the best thing about ReBirth now, is it's FREEware!


Here is a quote for reference from the Propellerhead site:
"Having borrowed a TB-303 from a friend for analysis, the Propellerheads began developing its software equivalent. Pelle Jubel's expertise in analog circuits and digital signal processing was invaluable in deconstructing the 303. Rather than relying on digital recordings of 303 sounds, analog modeling "samples the circuitry" as a mathematical formula to simulate the synthesizer sound. Following the decision to emulate the 303, the TR-808 was the logical compliment, but unlike the bass line synthesizers, the drum machine was sample based."

Posted by: lepetitmartien Fri 16 Mar 2007, 04:56

I didn't know that thing for the 303 part, thanks for correcting me. smile.gif

Posted by: crosfire Tue 31 Jul 2007, 14:50

You may want to check this out:
http://nav.440network.com/out.php?mmsc=forums&url=http://www.acidvoice.com/

And if you need something cheap, there is also the mam mb-33 (around 100$ on ebay)

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