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Wed 1 Sep 2004, 01:23
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 127 Joined: 22-Aug 03 From: Greenwood - US Member No.: 23,402 |
Stress test update.
Started the stress test today: 15" powerbook 867 MHz powerPC G4 512 MB RAM OS X 10.2.8 ADCOM Firewire Drive Cubase SX 2 24 simultaneous audio tracks so far without breaking a sweat. Also used two TC Reverbs as send effects and a handful of Compressors and Limiters as inserts Hear it here: http://homepage.mac.com/scott_h_wilder/world2.mp3 This post has been edited by swilder: Wed 1 Sep 2004, 01:27 |
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Wed 1 Sep 2004, 01:42
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 127 Joined: 22-Aug 03 From: Greenwood - US Member No.: 23,402 |
I'll add more tracks tomorrow to try to max out the drive
Maybe even a few soft synths. (Those will max out the cpu fast) |
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Fri 3 Sep 2004, 20:31
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Maniac Member Group: Members Posts: 899 Joined: 12-Oct 01 From: Kirkland Member No.: 2,002 |
1GHz 12inch Powerbook Logic Audio
32 audio tracks channel eq, 10 tracks with compression,16 frozen audio instruments CPU=40% HD=20% SX2 10 tracks sx dynamics, pops, clicks at all buffer settings CPU=80% -------------------- G-Dub
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Sat 4 Sep 2004, 03:28
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 127 Joined: 22-Aug 03 From: Greenwood - US Member No.: 23,402 |
gdoubleyou,
Are you using an external drive or the internal hard drive? |
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Sun 5 Sep 2004, 06:16
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 5 Joined: 14-Aug 04 From: Malden - US Member No.: 48,792 |
hey thanks for all the opinions much appreciated. So all this talk from swilder about external hard drives makes me have to ask.
My Pbook only has the 1 firewire port being that its the 12" model. I'm useing it now for my audio interface. If an external harddrive is on the same bus (via a firewire hub i guess) will I see improvement in performance? Not that I'm anywhere near needing an external drive yet. Just thought I'd ask , since you all brought it up JS |
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Sun 5 Sep 2004, 20:50
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Maniac Member Group: Members Posts: 799 Joined: 24-Mar 02 From: Entre-Deux-Mers - FR Member No.: 3,984 |
I recorded audio on my G3 ibook before getting an external fw drive. I didn't go over 16 tracks (often just 8) in protools LE on OS9, used few plugins and parcimoniously. The problems I encountered were: learning how to get things done, my slowness, getting lost due to not giving names to all the bits and bats, and particularly accepting how far I was from being a musical genius. If there were any problems due to using the internal drive, I didn't notice.
Alot of people on here try for technical perfection, but I don't think it's worth getting worried about that too much until I'm satisfied with some of the music I try to compose. I did listen to advice here when I started out and knew, when I got a usb interface, that the single FW would be available for the external drive. I discovered MacMusic just in time. When you start doing good stuff, then you should get an external drive. If you want to use 32 tracks and bulldoze with plugins right from the start, you'll probably need it very soon and will have to either change the PB or get a usb sound interface. But if you don't demand too much of your set-up while you're learning and you're as slow as me, the problem shouldn't worry you for quite a while. -------------------- Without shit, we wouldn't be here ;)
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Mon 6 Sep 2004, 05:10
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 127 Joined: 22-Aug 03 From: Greenwood - US Member No.: 23,402 |
Having the audio card and hard drive on the same firewire port is of no consequence.
In a session I usually only record a few tracks at a time which is nowher near the full bandwith of the firewire pipe. Even is you record 8 to 16 tracks at a time, you should have any problems. Scott |
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Wed 8 Sep 2004, 18:17
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Maniac Member Group: Members Posts: 899 Joined: 12-Oct 01 From: Kirkland Member No.: 2,002 |
QUOTE (swilder @ Sep 3 2004, 18:28) gdoubleyou, Are you using an external drive or the internal hard drive? I'm using a Pro Tools certified 80Gb hard drive from Pacific Pro Audio. http://www.pacificproaudio.com/drives.asp My pain is over, now i sold my SX licence this weekend. This post has been edited by gdoubleyou: Wed 8 Sep 2004, 18:18 -------------------- G-Dub
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Fri 17 Sep 2004, 02:49
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 8 Joined: 04-Aug 04 From: The Bronx - US Member No.: 48,227 |
I have read this thread with interest - I am a MIDI beginner and would like software to build up some simple amateur arrangements of my little attempts at songs.
Any reccomendations appreciated - I have a B&W G3 Mac that has a G4 500mhz upgrade chip. OX X 10.2.8, 512 ram. I have a consumer Casio (WK-1300) MIDI keyboard sitting here for noodling on. I'm not up on all the jargon etc. It seems that the choice for my needs is either Cubase SE ($99 at Sam Ash) or Logic Express ($133 with student ID at college stores). IF I understand, they have similar features and would work with such a keyboard I would say I need 4 - 6 tracks each of audio and the same for Midi (at least for now). I could use audio pitch shifting (given my limitations as a player) and if i understand right, they both have this. That aside, all I need is for these things to work with my Mac and keyboard. Are there any serious differencs - i don't really understand all the 'effects' the web sites mention - or if they're important (I assume its simple things like audio 'echo' or 'reverb' kind of stuff my voice could use). Finally 2 tech questions - in the CUBASE SE 'system requirements' it says: "Sound Card: CoreAudio compatible audio hardware" Is that something beyond whats in a B&W Powermac?? (what IS it?) for Logic express the requirements say: "Low latency audio hardware recommended" Same question - what is this? is my equipment up to this? Do I NEED to buy things to make it work? Thanks - Landlox |
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Fri 17 Sep 2004, 05:17
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 235 Joined: 25-Jul 02 From: Strongsville - US Member No.: 6,217 |
Landlox - no need to post the same question(s) twice - someone will find you and answer if possible. See my answer in the other thread.
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