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> Logic Users..., Are you using Express or Prol?
Lord Pasty
post Wed 21 Jul 2004, 21:56
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It looks like a lot of people out there are switching to Logic.

My question is this: Which version of Logic are you guys using?

While I intend to "buy up" to Pro shortly after purchasing Express, I was wondering how good the midi is with Express. I need midi. Lots of midi.

Anyhoo. Would love to just go out and buy Logic Pro, but I think the GF will kill me.
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rfaber
post Thu 22 Jul 2004, 09:23
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you will want the pro right away the express is very restricted more like a budget version
go and buy it on ebay i dit that i payed £410 instead of £700
then you register it in your name and they are ok about that
i did the same with my old cubase and sold it on there for £250
the power of logic on mac is crazy
on cubasesx 2.0 i could only open 7 synth 12 effects on my g4 dual 1.25
now i can open something like 28 synths and 25 effects
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post Fri 23 Jul 2004, 17:17
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I'm using Express most of my sessions are 24-32 tracks, but I will be upgrading to the Pro version soon. cool.gif


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Lord Pasty
post Fri 23 Jul 2004, 20:15
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I'm hoping Logic will be more of a beast on my CPU than PT or Cubase. I just bought the full version. It's so intimidating. Can't wait!
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post Fri 23 Jul 2004, 22:36
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I'm with you Pasty- just bought Logic Pro last week (1/2 price student discount) - kick @$$!

I just did a semi-live, mostly composed performance with it last night, with live MIDI control over several key parameters, on the fly looping to time the music to the "plop painting" performance that the sound was for, a number of heavy soft synths (some of them frozen smile.gif ), and lots of pre-composed audio tracks with lots of effects, including the CPU hogging Pluggo "Cosmo" from Gleetchplug (that on its own would bring Pro Tools to its knees) - in realtime on my powerbook through my Mbox. No problems - the whole time not one hiccup. cool.gif This is something I would NEvER have even TRIED to do with Pro Tools LE, for many reasons including stability, CPU efficiency and live/realtime flexibilty (like looping the transport on the fly and assigning MIDI controllers to track levels/pans/mutes). And this is after playing around with lOgic for less than a week!

I still don't have audio editing completely down yet, as it is very different from Pro Tools - a little more effort it seems so far, but not all bad. And MIDI is crazy. I want to do something and I just do it - no more squinting at piano rolls on left side of the screen and counting half steps up and down and waiting for PT to update to display behind my mouse etc etc - it is like - press 6 to switch to notation view - change note - back to arrange - "did I just edit that? it was so painless!" And automation edit/viewing is fabulous in the arrange window. The environment could be more "logical" - more like MaxMSP, and rewire seems a bit cumbersome. But I cant complain, as I haven't completely learned those parts of logic yet.

And i can connect it to MaxMSP with Jack!!!!!!

finally I am no longer complaining about pro tools LE screwing up on OS X and being stupid, and I am just making music again, like when I had PT free on OS 9, but MUCH BETTER!

rock on logic!

[By the way, a plop painting is a painting done by my friend Mark Milloff, made of solid, heaping oil paint that slides off when it is put on a wall, goes down the wall and plops on the ground, making a crazy paint-mess. They have actually got him quite a bit of acclaim, though they began years ago as an accident.]


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td3k
post Sat 24 Jul 2004, 04:19
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I just bought Logic Express 2 wks ago, to use with my mBox.
Academic pricing rules smile.gif

Seems to run well on my 900Mhz iBook and G4 450 AGP. and is very stable, (unlike my past experiences with Cubase ). I mostly am using it to run Instruments and slave to ProTools on another computer.

...After I sorted out the "Environment" for ReWire ect. Also, not being able to send MIDI to Audio Instruments on different chanels (Multitimbrally) unless the sequencer is in play or rec. (that is just silly) But, the sequencer is very nice. After PTLE, it's nice to have a good sequencer around. I do think the bar ruler is weak compared to PT and Express has no markers or anything like that. I haven't used it for recording audio yet. ( PT is my primary audio prog. )

I prob would have bought the Pro version, but having never used it before, and considering they have no type of demo at ALL. I had to see what the hype was all about. ...Apparently, Logic users are the elite of our society.


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Dasa Soul
post Mon 26 Jul 2004, 20:54
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Arvid very cool music !!! cool.gif
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arvidtp
post Tue 27 Jul 2004, 00:10
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Well thank you!

if you are referring to the stuff on my site, that is unfortunately a number of months old - I've got some new weird stuff in the works! Thanks.


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post Tue 27 Jul 2004, 23:19
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