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thepzl
post Tue 6 Sep 2005, 02:42
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thanks again, and screw the language issues, art is art, professional? uh yeah... go home to your Clear Channel Safe home, or check out what some professianal artists have done, see Joel Peter Witkin, Jeff Koons, Man Ray, Mapplethorpe, John Duncan... endless.. maybe by professional you meant American Pop?

Anyway, as another pointed out this is very inspiring, I really gotta get back into video...been years. Your fancy effects were great, seemed raw and filmlike, never felt like fancy digital effects, the technique never got in the way of the message, yet still interesting enough to watch many times.. Excellent work, thanks for sharing.
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tunepoet
post Tue 6 Sep 2005, 02:51
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Thanks guys, I really appreciate.

Tunepoet, I think you're completely missing something there.

What is so shoking about it?... The title?!...
These words (including the "F" word as you, prude people, hypocritically name it) are being used everyday by all kinds of different people. You've never said it?...
Good for you (you should try some day though... just for the thrill of it...).
Pretending that nobody should use it publicly in order to protect kids is so utopian and naive...
So what?... I should have replaced those words with a beep, as they do on MTV?... I've always found this kind of censure to be very hypocritical.
We don't do that in Europe. Are our kids more impolite because of this? I don't think so my dear. It's just a question of education and how the parents handle their kids.
I've grown up knowing all the curse-words you can think of (I know, what a f*cked up kid!). Am I cursing all day long?... No, because I 've been teached how to behave, thanks to my parents.

And, for your information, you probably haven't the slightest clue of what the "subject" of this song is about. I can't blame you, most people don't.
You think it's evil? You think it's about being a "bad guy"??...
Well, not in the sense you're thinking of I guess.
I wrote this song after breaking up with my last girlfriend. She was involved in a long term relationship when we met. She left the guy for me. It lasted less than a year and eventhough I broke up with her in a "decent way" (= I didn't just runaway as a coward), I really felt as a M*therF*cker (see, I'm censuring myself) because she had left a solid relationship for something that didn't last more than a year.
I felt even worse considering it wasn't the first I was in this "situation".

I shouldn't have to explain (or justify for) a song if you want my opinion, but in this case... here you go.
Listen to the lyrics before judging the title.
"You wanna do me good/ And I know you could/ You want me to be yours/ 'Won't last more than 24 hours/ etc etc..".

So, sorry if this sounded shoking to you but when you say "You want to prove to me you are a genius", you're really being stupid.
I don't want (or have) to prove anything, specially to you! I know I'm not a genious, just a guys writing silly song on his own. I don't even pretend to be an artist!
This song was just a joke. The videoclip was just a joke.
It's not even the kind of songs that I usually write...

But ask yourself this question: why are so many people enjoying this stuff (I've received hundreds of friendly emails)?
Maybe because they understood the humour behind it.
So sad you didn't...
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You win!
You are right!
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I did not realize that everyone was doing it!
If everyone is mugging old ladies, that makes it alright
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All destructive content is justified if in the context of a joke!
Why was that Jewish person offended by my Holocaust joke?
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If a million people love it, that means there cannot be anything wrong with it!
Heroine should be legal cause lots of people love it!
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If you have ever cursed once in your life, that means you are never in a position to argue that it could be offensive!
Once you have quit smoking, you are never entitled to argue that smoking is dangerous!

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The freedom to do anything proves that anything a person is free to do, must be alright!
Lets start up a web page for little kids and teach them all the cool ways to say "f yourself" cause they are gonna hear it anyway!

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I give up!
I had no right to share my opinion!
And aI should have consulted the the censorship committee before I said something you think should have been censored....

See the double standard?

I'm leaving this thread, too much confusion to sort through...

Hows about you did something you wanted to do, I shared my opinion, you are free to disagree with it, and you don't have to change my mind if you still want to entertain your point of view.
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No moral point of view goes unpunished...
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tunepoet
post Tue 6 Sep 2005, 03:28
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I would like to formally apologize for having an opinion.

I would like to formally apologize for censoring your work, and preventing it from being posted in a public forum available to everyone.

I would like to formally apologize for being an American, for all Americans are guilty of the same thoughts, and should be mentally blanked out in an Orwellian Fashion.

I would like to formally apologize for not caring about people in New Orleans.

I would like to formally apologize for exorcising my right to free speech, which should have been censored before I was guilty of expressing it.

I would like to formally apologize for expressing my right of free speech, in response to others who have expressed their right of free speech.

I would like to formally apologize for rebelling against the most popular opinions held by people who feel that only some forms of free speech should be free, and all other expressions of free speech should be snuffed out.

I would like to apologize for, um, not formally apologizing before I mindlessly droned out something that I have to formally apologize for.

Next time I will take a vote, and will be sure to agree with the most popular opinion, so I will not be guilty of forming my own.

Sorry,
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fastlanephil
post Tue 6 Sep 2005, 04:36
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-God Bless America-

God Bless America.
Land that I love
Stand beside her, and guide her
Thru the night with a light from above.
From the mountains, to the prairies,
To the oceans, white with foam
God bless America
My home sweet home.

God Bless America,
Land that I love
Stand beside her,
And guide her,
Through the night
With the light from above,
From the mountains,
To the prairies,
To the ocean,
White with foam,
God bless America,
My home sweet home.
God bless America,
My home sweet home.

-Irvin Berlin- America's Greatest Song Writer
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makaala
post Tue 6 Sep 2005, 05:46
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all of this discourse is healthy... see how many posts? In a free society everyone should exercise free speech no matter how popular or unpopular the sentiment. Tunepoet, I respect your opinion and appreciate the people who have died to preserve it through the centuries.
Everyone can argue art endlessly, the more passionate it becomes however, the more we are brought to the surface of our complacent, everyday life. Controversy should always exist as part of art's dialog.
Everyone should just chill and move on... good art waits for better to be created... etc.. etc.
cheers,
Mak
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Francois Déchery
post Tue 6 Sep 2005, 07:54
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Could we please turn back from political thoughts to song/video comments?

Otherwise, please launch a new thread in the "Open Bar". rolleyes.gif


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Mr.T
post Tue 6 Sep 2005, 11:23
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QUOTE (tunepoet @ Sep 6 2005, 04:28)
I would like to formally apologize for having an opinion.
I would like to formally apologize for censoring your work, and preventing it from being posted in a public forum available to everyone.
I would like to formally apologize for being an American, for all Americans are guilty of the same thoughts, and should be mentally blanked out in an Orwellian Fashion.
I would like to formally apologize for not caring about people in New Orleans.
I would like to formally apologize for exorcising my right to free speech, which should have been censored before I was guilty of expressing it.
I would like to formally apologize for expressing my right of free speech, in response to others who have expressed their right of free speech.
I would like to formally apologize for rebelling against the most popular opinions held by people who feel that only some forms of free speech should be free, and all other expressions of free speech should be snuffed out.
I would like to apologize for, um, not formally apologizing before I mindlessly droned out something that I have to formally apologize for.
Next time I will take a vote, and will be sure to agree with the most popular opinion, so I will not be guilty of forming my own.
Sorry,
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Get a life dear...
Three (looooong) posts to "express" your opinion!...
And the quotes... Learn to use the quotes, that will help at least trying to understand what you're saying...
Well, in fact, no, don't even bother doing that, the first lines said it all, I don't really need to read the rest (I did in fact... silly me... waht a waste of time...).
You definitely should be elected President!
Don't "apologize for having an opinion", keep on being proud to make judgements!
And have a good life.

PS: and thanks again to the others who simply appreciated that evil creation. Sorry guys but it seems you'll burn in hell just like me... (-;
At least we'll keep warm.


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Doume 01
post Tue 6 Sep 2005, 12:03
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Could we please turn back from political thoughts to song/video comments?
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... a real mother fuc*' artist > that's what he is 
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charliemak
post Tue 6 Sep 2005, 17:01
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Enough!
behave already. give peace a chance and all that. in the great words of that other famous king "can't we all just get along"
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post Tue 6 Sep 2005, 18:05
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QUOTE (Mr.T @ Sep 4 2005, 15:31)
Thanks guys.
I have to say I'm specialy gifted when it comes to fake oriental dancers (thanks to the pair of socks for the breast) or fake skeletons (thanks to the white rubber bands for the costume...)! (-;

Totally awesome! I'm going back for seconds. smile.gif
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