Exs24 Vs Kontakt, cant decide Options

[slowintrepid]

So yeah I'm a pretty heavy logic user and I'm starting to realize the beauty of the included Logic plug ins and Synths.

I've also been trying to learn to use kontakt really well.

I don't wanna have two samplers though because it seems redundant.

so here's my gripe


EXS24 appleized and rock solid with very little DSP usage.

Kontakt very powerfull sampler with alot of DSP usage and a bit of unstabiltiy compared to EXS24

also can I convert my kontakt samples to EXS or vis versa with CDXtract or similar?

This post has been edited by formatj: Wed 8 Dec 2004, 16:34

[OceanZen]

Personally I love the fact that EXS24 is so stable, and takes up little CPU even though I'm using a G5, I often run a lot of EXS24's for Drums and also have a large Piano sample library that runs on EXS24.

There are loads of native sample libraries for exs24 and it can convert Giga, Akai and Recycle and sound font 2 formats.

Have you worked out how to use the Modulation matrix?

That increases the flexibility tenfold!

[slowintrepid]

no I haven't could you touch on that a little bit??

[OceanZen]

OK, the manual is priceless here, but I'll try and describe it to you,

Around the middle you have a row of controls that say dest. (destination) at the top.
So if you want to change the Filter cutoff, you put that in the top row, and then assign it to say a LFO2 in the bottom row, then adjust the level on the right, up or down to increase the value.

As you can see there are many free destinations and many possibilitys. If you want to control the resonance with the Mod wheel, you just follow the same kind of pattern.

I haven't used Kontakt though, so it may appear inferior.

Let us know, how you get on.

[Jibril]

If you use logic audio the esx24 is obviously better in sense of been intergraded.

Compatition has been the influence though that no 3rd party sampler would perform better on emagic's logic by all means if emagic wants to sell there products for apple.

the best over samplers are Kontact and or Mach 5 hands down, if kontact was the new esx24 intergrated into logic pro, im sure it would seem to perform as it does on PCs and cubase etc.but it will not at the moment becuase of the reasons i stated., programers dont just give away everything free., if they did everyone else would beat them at there game.

so use the esx24 if you have logic audio and get kontact if you want more features, but be prepared for porfamance limitations for kotnact as to logic since emagic will rutthlessly limit its performance to make the esx24 seem better, though it allready does everything but pitch shift by keys with time stretching to fit a layout, its terrible at that, you can not make instruments with out this feature which is in most hardware samplers.

i know it sounds cheap but thats the truth,
-from the users point of view;
--esx24 users are happy but there is allways room for new features,
i personally dont by those negative posts by esx24 users who claim that adding these "pitch and time" features may ruin the esx performance, sounds strange that anyone would say that when they new its possible to do with out limitations as it has been evidant allready with the state logic has been keeping up with now! who would say such crap obviously has a invested interests in profit for emagic or apple developing or is a pure geek limited to the possibilities of the current logic programing schemes.
BUT over all its about just how much money are they willing to get for it.

if only emagic would put some time into the esx24 instead of sceaming how to keep others behind they would not worry about compatition, but unfortunatly emagic wants tons of money (profit) for there sampler, not just 200% but 400+ % from developement for the esx24, and they did not bother to improve it since there dirty secret was selling it all to apple and including the esx24 with the package.

anyways, try them both if you can

good luck

This post has been edited by Jibril: Sun 19 Dec 2004, 15:31

[LUCKY LUKE]

Hi

I have a question. Is it possible to transfer wav into exs and where can I do that?

Thanks