Protools--vs--????, lost in the digi jungle----HELP!! |
Sun 7 Jul 2002, 18:34
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i am starting from the ground up with a home studio ....i definitly want a mac i have my own website and as well as being a musician/composer...im also an artist
what i need to know is basicaly this;; what is the best and most cost efficant way to build a home studio that will be album quality and provide me with the warmth i enjoyed with 24 track 2'' tape --is this possible on a budget of a few grand or am i fooling myself??--------is protools the right way to go and what kind of mac is best 4 what im doing-----HELP PLEASE--- |
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Sat 13 Jul 2002, 12:35
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QUOTE (damann @ Jul 12 2002, 18:22) you'll also find me on the digi website(by my real name) talking about how i used sound replacer on steve gadd's drums while working on 1 of the 5 albums i've made with eric clapton! ;) chill out man, i'm allowed to have an opinion and it just happens to be based on nearly 20 years of solid PRO experience. maybe next time you want to make assumptions about people in these forums, you should check out their profile... Dear Daman, I don't need or want to check anyone's profile in order to know how good they are...I usually don't check someone's resume to know if he's good or not ... In fact, I don't give a damn about resume... You've made an album with E.Clapton?... Good for you!... Am I gonna bend over and lick your boots for that?... I don't think so... The fact that you've worked with Clapton doesn't mean a thing to me... It all depends on what you've done for the guy...and even if you should have produced/recorded and mixed his whole album, Clapton's records are, in my very small/ humble/ insignificant opinion, not what I would really called "creative stuffs"...far from it (with all due respect to the great musician HE is). On the" Logic side", as I said, I was only speaking about the situation here in France (I know Logic is currently used in England). You're saying: "transfering work from Logic to tools couldn't be easier"... I'm not a Logic user, but I'm also a DP user, and I supposed you'll still get some troubles while exporting-importing from Logic to PT (due to each soft's"philosophy")->ex.: loops made in DP=>once imported in PT, it's bye-bye loops,start all over again... Anyway... the saddest thing in all that is that I'm not even a huge PT fan and that I do agree on many points with you ("Garbage in, garbage out", Digi's gear too expensive and outdated on many points), I just happen to be a user convinced that, eventhough Digidesign has big big progress to make as far as its general policy's concerned, the soft is still pretty good and can be used for the exact same purposes as the other softs: post prod°, music, creative SFX... Thus, I'm just kinda surprised by your definitive assumptions about PT. I've read your same kind of replies in many different posts (the ones were you say you have to be named Clapton to be able to buy PT... Funny now that I know you've worked for him...) and thought they sounded kinda subjective and exaggerated... That's all. It's not the tools, it's mostly the man behind the tools...as long as the tools are good enough...which is the case with PT. I'm done...as far as this subject's concerned. -------------------- |
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midnight Protools--vs--???? Sun 7 Jul 2002, 18:34
Mr.T You're fooling yourself indeed... Sorry but yo... Sun 7 Jul 2002, 23:41
damann in this game you're as good as your expertise... Tue 9 Jul 2002, 23:53
Eric Seaberg I have been a Sonic Solutions user for the past 5 ... Thu 11 Jul 2002, 06:34
damann my biggest dislike of digidesign is the fact that ... Fri 12 Jul 2002, 04:44
Mr.T QUOTE (damann @ Jul 12 2002, 05:44)if you... Fri 12 Jul 2002, 09:33
damann for your information mr t i work in all the big st... Fri 12 Jul 2002, 17:22
Soif please, keep cool guys! peace... Sat 13 Jul 2002, 15:00
CeJeRo I personally have to say that I LOVE both ProTools... Sun 14 Jul 2002, 02:34
damann sound advice CeJeRo! 'though it's hard... Sun 14 Jul 2002, 19:26
Mr.T Amen... While we're here, has anyone seen this... Sun 14 Jul 2002, 22:32
Presto So, you want to set up a studio from scratch(?) an... Sun 11 Aug 2002, 21:58
lepetitmartien uh oh! Presto, what did you ate this evening? ... Mon 12 Aug 2002, 02:25
Presto Oops! I've gone an unglorious crimson colo... Mon 12 Aug 2002, 11:17
miss kiki teasing is great if the teaser and the teased are ... Mon 12 Aug 2002, 12:06
Mac1 To answer the mans original question, Yes you can ... Mon 12 Aug 2002, 16:51
Presto Yeah! Great! And I believe Mac 1 works mai... Fri 16 Aug 2002, 22:34
Presto I don't understand why there have been so few ... Sat 17 Aug 2002, 12:30
Mr.T QUOTE Or do you believe Mr T when he says you can... Sun 18 Aug 2002, 10:16
Presto I don't have much experience of tape sound qua... Sun 18 Aug 2002, 17:00
III777III VERY old NEWS there are several MILLION people fr... Mon 19 Aug 2002, 06:16
Mr.T QUOTE (III777III @ Aug 19 2002, 07:16)VERY ol... Mon 19 Aug 2002, 09:19
rickenbacker I don't think it matters what gear you're ... Tue 20 Aug 2002, 11:23
Presto "VERY old NEWS" As Mr T says so rightly... Tue 20 Aug 2002, 13:28
buryya To continue beating a dead horse on whether a comm... Wed 21 Aug 2002, 02:50
Mr.T The dead horse is coming alive...good points here.... Wed 21 Aug 2002, 08:59
Synthetic I personally... I think you can record an excellen... Wed 21 Aug 2002, 20:33
damann didn't i say all of this in the first place? ... Sun 25 Aug 2002, 03:23
burns ahhhhhhhh children !!!!!!... Mon 26 Aug 2002, 21:12
Mr.T Ohhhhhhh Newbie !!!!! Mon 26 Aug 2002, 23:48
Yukulele QUOTE (damann @ Aug 25 2002, 04:23)put mister... Tue 27 Aug 2002, 02:48
beezkneez hey i read that sting is recording right now using... Wed 25 Sep 2002, 11:30
damann hi beezkneez, what this means in reality is that h... Thu 26 Sep 2002, 01:55
rickenbacker On this subject, is anyone out there using an Mbox... Thu 26 Sep 2002, 10:42
damann a good point, yes, it works fine with logic. th... Thu 26 Sep 2002, 14:39
rickenbacker Hmm, interesting. I'm still caught in this wei... Fri 27 Sep 2002, 11:57
damann realistically, there is no limbo state, os9 provid... Sat 28 Sep 2002, 01:53
rickenbacker "the only reason to be making music with osx ... Sat 28 Sep 2002, 11:25
urbanmatador > "the only reason to be making music with... Sat 28 Sep 2002, 22:53
Teiwaz anyone have comparisions between those two (digi v... Sat 2 Nov 2002, 22:01
Teiwaz "you can currently buy a 24 track tape machin... Sat 2 Nov 2002, 23:25
holli right on teiwaz, the 2408 is a top piece of kit. O... Mon 11 Nov 2002, 05:27
Teiwaz Thank you, Holli. (By the way, Holli has an awesom... Wed 13 Nov 2002, 08:55
holli Haha, lovingly hand built in 1952 and it's nev... Thu 14 Nov 2002, 04:53
damann QUOTE (holli @ Nov 14 2002, 03:53)Haha, lovin... Thu 14 Nov 2002, 05:33
Presto I've got a nice Selmer alto sax from the 30... Thu 14 Nov 2002, 19:27
holli QUOTE Strange that often the classiest and most pr... Fri 15 Nov 2002, 03:25
droltam well this should heat things up...... I work in a ... Fri 15 Nov 2002, 06:06
damann QUOTE (holli @ Nov 15 2002, 02:25)Damann, if ... Sat 16 Nov 2002, 02:09
Teiwaz Yes...rather annoying spurious background chatter.... Sat 16 Nov 2002, 11:55
Presto Bloody hell! Damann and Teiwaz! Should we... Sat 16 Nov 2002, 16:13
holli i can never really understand why people get obses... Sat 16 Nov 2002, 18:22
lepetitmartien Just a quick word to tell again that tis forum is ... Sat 16 Nov 2002, 19:42
holli hey, a. yes I did start another thread concernin... Sun 17 Nov 2002, 19:07
Teiwaz Now there's a man who knows his salt from his ... Sun 17 Nov 2002, 23:29
droltam Protools with Digi hardware sounds better than Cub... Mon 18 Nov 2002, 02:10
lepetitmartien For info, a smiley was missing in my post… correct... Mon 18 Nov 2002, 03:49
Tone [ I am an amateur who works with a home VST with ... Mon 18 Nov 2002, 08:01
Teiwaz In response to droltam's quote: "Protool... Tue 19 Nov 2002, 02:59
Mr.T You're fooling yourself indeed... Sorry but yo... Sun 7 Jul 2002, 23:41
damann in this game you're as good as your expertise... Tue 9 Jul 2002, 23:53
Eric Seaberg I have been a Sonic Solutions user for the past 5 ... Thu 11 Jul 2002, 06:34
damann my biggest dislike of digidesign is the fact that ... Fri 12 Jul 2002, 04:44
Mr.T QUOTE (damann @ Jul 12 2002, 05:44)if you... Fri 12 Jul 2002, 09:33
damann for your information mr t i work in all the big st... Fri 12 Jul 2002, 17:22
Soif please, keep cool guys! peace... Sat 13 Jul 2002, 15:00
CeJeRo I personally have to say that I LOVE both ProTools... Sun 14 Jul 2002, 02:34
damann sound advice CeJeRo! 'though it's hard... Sun 14 Jul 2002, 19:26
Mr.T Amen... While we're here, has anyone seen this... Sun 14 Jul 2002, 22:32
Presto So, you want to set up a studio from scratch(?) an... Sun 11 Aug 2002, 21:58
lepetitmartien uh oh! Presto, what did you ate this evening? ... Mon 12 Aug 2002, 02:25
Presto Oops! I've gone an unglorious crimson colo... Mon 12 Aug 2002, 11:17
miss kiki teasing is great if the teaser and the teased are ... Mon 12 Aug 2002, 12:06
Mac1 To answer the mans original question, Yes you can ... Mon 12 Aug 2002, 16:51
Presto Yeah! Great! And I believe Mac 1 works mai... Fri 16 Aug 2002, 22:34
Presto I don't understand why there have been so few ... Sat 17 Aug 2002, 12:30
Mr.T QUOTE Or do you believe Mr T when he says you can... Sun 18 Aug 2002, 10:16
Presto I don't have much experience of tape sound qua... Sun 18 Aug 2002, 17:00
III777III VERY old NEWS there are several MILLION people fr... Mon 19 Aug 2002, 06:16
Mr.T QUOTE (III777III @ Aug 19 2002, 07:16)VERY ol... Mon 19 Aug 2002, 09:19
rickenbacker I don't think it matters what gear you're ... Tue 20 Aug 2002, 11:23
Presto "VERY old NEWS" As Mr T says so rightly... Tue 20 Aug 2002, 13:28
buryya To continue beating a dead horse on whether a comm... Wed 21 Aug 2002, 02:50
Mr.T The dead horse is coming alive...good points here.... Wed 21 Aug 2002, 08:59
Synthetic I personally... I think you can record an excellen... Wed 21 Aug 2002, 20:33
damann didn't i say all of this in the first place? ... Sun 25 Aug 2002, 03:23
burns ahhhhhhhh children !!!!!!... Mon 26 Aug 2002, 21:12
Mr.T Ohhhhhhh Newbie !!!!! Mon 26 Aug 2002, 23:48
Yukulele QUOTE (damann @ Aug 25 2002, 04:23)put mister... Tue 27 Aug 2002, 02:48
beezkneez hey i read that sting is recording right now using... Wed 25 Sep 2002, 11:30
damann hi beezkneez, what this means in reality is that h... Thu 26 Sep 2002, 01:55
rickenbacker On this subject, is anyone out there using an Mbox... Thu 26 Sep 2002, 10:42
damann a good point, yes, it works fine with logic. th... Thu 26 Sep 2002, 14:39
rickenbacker Hmm, interesting. I'm still caught in this wei... Fri 27 Sep 2002, 11:57
damann realistically, there is no limbo state, os9 provid... Sat 28 Sep 2002, 01:53
rickenbacker "the only reason to be making music with osx ... Sat 28 Sep 2002, 11:25
urbanmatador > "the only reason to be making music with... Sat 28 Sep 2002, 22:53
Teiwaz anyone have comparisions between those two (digi v... Sat 2 Nov 2002, 22:01
Teiwaz "you can currently buy a 24 track tape machin... Sat 2 Nov 2002, 23:25
holli right on teiwaz, the 2408 is a top piece of kit. O... Mon 11 Nov 2002, 05:27
Teiwaz Thank you, Holli. (By the way, Holli has an awesom... Wed 13 Nov 2002, 08:55
holli Haha, lovingly hand built in 1952 and it's nev... Thu 14 Nov 2002, 04:53
damann QUOTE (holli @ Nov 14 2002, 03:53)Haha, lovin... Thu 14 Nov 2002, 05:33
Presto I've got a nice Selmer alto sax from the 30... Thu 14 Nov 2002, 19:27
holli QUOTE Strange that often the classiest and most pr... Fri 15 Nov 2002, 03:25
droltam well this should heat things up...... I work in a ... Fri 15 Nov 2002, 06:06
damann QUOTE (holli @ Nov 15 2002, 02:25)Damann, if ... Sat 16 Nov 2002, 02:09
Teiwaz Yes...rather annoying spurious background chatter.... Sat 16 Nov 2002, 11:55
Presto Bloody hell! Damann and Teiwaz! Should we... Sat 16 Nov 2002, 16:13
holli i can never really understand why people get obses... Sat 16 Nov 2002, 18:22
lepetitmartien Just a quick word to tell again that tis forum is ... Sat 16 Nov 2002, 19:42
holli hey, a. yes I did start another thread concernin... Sun 17 Nov 2002, 19:07
Teiwaz Now there's a man who knows his salt from his ... Sun 17 Nov 2002, 23:29
droltam Protools with Digi hardware sounds better than Cub... Mon 18 Nov 2002, 02:10
lepetitmartien For info, a smiley was missing in my post… correct... Mon 18 Nov 2002, 03:49
Tone [ I am an amateur who works with a home VST with ... Mon 18 Nov 2002, 08:01
Teiwaz In response to droltam's quote: "Protool... Tue 19 Nov 2002, 02:59
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