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slowintrepid
post Sun 11 Jul 2004, 07:11
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Ok folks I've been producing alot of music on my computer that isn't electronica at all.

thus my drums now feel very very ridgid
I need to get more feel and consistency when sequencing drums..

I either use battery into cubase, or I just use reason

and no matterr what my drums don't sound good (rhymically)

I've tried playing that parts on my keyboard and nothing.

I've tried using the pen tool nothing....

and I've tried different quantitisation methods (like swing and what not)


but still nothing can someone shed some light on this for me
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arvidtp
post Sun 11 Jul 2004, 19:25
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Hey, I'm not making conventional drum tracks, nor do they sound really "sweet" as one would typically put it for rock or electronica, but I've been getting some interesting stuff in realtime.

I have a Yamaha MIDI drum brain (PMC-1) that I FOUND AT THE DUMP !!! AND REPAIRED and made piezo drum triggers for. Then I also have been using MaxMSP synced via MIDI clock to Pro Tools to create strange electronic drum sounds (synth and sampled) triggered through the drum brain and also by MIDI clock ticks from Pro TOols, in which case the intensity of the drum hit is randomized in a way to make an interesting pattern that is random and sounds like a pattern but is actually not, and the timing is controlled by counting ticks from PT and firing every, say 6 or 24 ticks (there are 24 per measure and I have realtime control of the number of ticks when it goes off as well). It is a particular sound, and not one fit for every piece of music, but interesting especially for someone like me who is normally no drummer.

I also have realtime control as I am performing this of start/stop (foot pedal), a sweepable filter for each drum sound (MIDI wheels/sliders and mouse to change types - this is the coolest sounding thing about this drumming setup), overdrive, various delay and FM effects and mix. And I am planning to implement more MIDI control in the future.

I record this into pro tools (unfortunately for now it has to go out the analog out of the built-in card (ick!) then back to digital through my Mbox, but I may soon be getting logic and no longer need to do that (will use Jack).)

Then I chop up the audio how I like and record any other things I want, like more fills, etc using the MIDI drum brain. Its sorta fun.

Hope this gives you some crazy Ideas.


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