Cubase Vs. Digital Performer., Vs. |
Thu 11 Mar 2004, 20:20
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 11 Joined: 11-Mar 04 From: Cairo - EG Member No.: 38,251 |
I am just confused which software is best for Midi,i am working with pro-tools digi002 for audio but i need a good Midi sequencer and i am stuck in between cubase and digital performer..Any hints??
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Fri 19 Mar 2004, 01:52
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Two responses:
First to The Circle: the VST-AU wrapper essentially looks at all your VST plugins and then converts them to be used as Audio Units (which DP and Logic use). The first time you open DP after that, it examines them, and then you can use them like any other plugin in DP. I've not had much occasion to use VST's (the plugins that DP comes with do most of what I want), but it seems to work flawlessly. Secondly, to sethjacquay: When you say that anyone who considers DP easy to use must be "on crack", and then compare it to programs like Garage Band and Reason, frankly, I think it's comparing apples and oranges. GB is a consumer level program, not a professional system. Of course it's going to be easy to learn. Apple generally markets systems to both pro and consumer level users (iMovie vs Final Cut Pro, Garage Band or Soundtrack vs. Logic, etc.) Just as no one who's really serious about video editing would limit themselves to the low-end, but highly easy to use iMovie, I can't imagine anyone who's really serious about computer-based recording and MIDI would want to work with Garage Band. And Reason, though a wonderful program, is not by any means comparable to the kind of DAW software we're talking about. Reason has no audio i/o, no capability of 3rd party effects, no MIDI out, and so on. It's a totally different beast. Ultimately, I agree that many of these issues are more about personal taste than anything else. I do find DP easier to use than Logic (by far!), but there's always going to be a learning curve. I do agree with the complaint about MIDI quantization, though it is not by any means a deal-breaker given all of the other benefits of DP. One more thing about REX files: according to people who went to the recent NAMM convention, Motu is planning a Recycle/REX stlye editor in it's next major upgrade, which will allow for real time manipulation of audio loops in the way that Reason does with REX files. That's something I'm eagerly awaiting. |
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The_Circle Cubase Vs. Digital Performer. Thu 11 Mar 2004, 20:20
surrealka I'm not very familiar with cubase, so I can... Sat 13 Mar 2004, 20:10
The_Circle I think it's a bit hard to compare between the... Sat 13 Mar 2004, 20:26
jetcity Hey there. I use DP 4.12 and love it. It's v... Sat 13 Mar 2004, 21:13
The_Circle Well i guess i should consider dp and give it a tr... Sat 13 Mar 2004, 22:17
sethjacquay Back the snack up boys! Anyone, who says DP 4 ... Mon 15 Mar 2004, 17:59
td3k QUOTE (The_Circle @ Mar 11 2004, 14:20)... Mon 15 Mar 2004, 19:56
sethjacquay td3k, Just out of curiosity, why do you feel Cuba... Mon 15 Mar 2004, 21:00
rickenbacker Steinberg promise a lot of things for Cubase on th... Tue 16 Mar 2004, 12:17
sethjacquay Rickenbacker, Can you confirm the support of VST ... Tue 16 Mar 2004, 16:45
pdgood Let's get specific. DP does not have individua... Tue 16 Mar 2004, 19:36
rickenbacker Apple have not simplified Logic with Logic 6 Pro/E... Wed 17 Mar 2004, 13:21
sethjacquay The Circle, My last post on this topic. I don... Wed 17 Mar 2004, 16:09
The_Circle Well i totally agree that picking one of the 3 is ... Wed 17 Mar 2004, 19:56
editbrain geez! if you want a product that works and is... Wed 17 Mar 2004, 20:51
The_Circle Well thanks editbrain, i think i shall consider ge... Fri 19 Mar 2004, 13:38
pdgood Do any of you Logic users know if it has the indiv... Fri 19 Mar 2004, 14:27
sethjacquay Well...they are "on crack" aren't th... Fri 19 Mar 2004, 14:34
surrealka He he! Fri 19 Mar 2004, 22:14
gdoubleyou Steinberg has good ideas but fall short on executi... Fri 19 Mar 2004, 22:43
editbrain my goodness....i did not know that cubase was pinn... Sat 20 Mar 2004, 01:29
The_Circle surrealka,Maybe Logic is a bit harder to get along... Sat 20 Mar 2004, 17:27
surrealka You're absolutely right, and I hope I haven... Sun 21 Mar 2004, 21:12
Panopticon Well, count me as another crack abuser who finds D... Wed 24 Mar 2004, 09:54
rickenbacker I'd say the Logic Pro package offers over and ... Wed 24 Mar 2004, 16:28
The_Circle Hehe..it seems that most of whoever is in this for... Wed 24 Mar 2004, 21:08
gdoubleyou Maybe I have more experience but I didn't find... Thu 25 Mar 2004, 01:53
pdgood No one is taking the $$$ into accou... Thu 25 Mar 2004, 19:46
surrealka pdgood, yes DP has MIDI scrub. And good AU integra... Fri 26 Mar 2004, 00:22
gdoubleyou SX2 just had an update released, check Cubase.net ... Fri 26 Mar 2004, 01:00
newrigel If your a proficient performer (keyboadist) you re... Sat 27 Mar 2004, 18:44
surrealka I found this good article comparing different sequ... Sat 27 Mar 2004, 20:39
newrigel QUOTE (gdoubleyou @ Mar 26 2004, 00:00) SX2 ... Tue 30 Mar 2004, 21:36
surrealka I'm not very familiar with cubase, so I can... Sat 13 Mar 2004, 20:10
The_Circle I think it's a bit hard to compare between the... Sat 13 Mar 2004, 20:26
jetcity Hey there. I use DP 4.12 and love it. It's v... Sat 13 Mar 2004, 21:13
The_Circle Well i guess i should consider dp and give it a tr... Sat 13 Mar 2004, 22:17
sethjacquay Back the snack up boys! Anyone, who says DP 4 ... Mon 15 Mar 2004, 17:59
td3k QUOTE (The_Circle @ Mar 11 2004, 14:20)... Mon 15 Mar 2004, 19:56
sethjacquay td3k, Just out of curiosity, why do you feel Cuba... Mon 15 Mar 2004, 21:00
rickenbacker Steinberg promise a lot of things for Cubase on th... Tue 16 Mar 2004, 12:17
sethjacquay Rickenbacker, Can you confirm the support of VST ... Tue 16 Mar 2004, 16:45
pdgood Let's get specific. DP does not have individua... Tue 16 Mar 2004, 19:36
rickenbacker Apple have not simplified Logic with Logic 6 Pro/E... Wed 17 Mar 2004, 13:21
sethjacquay The Circle, My last post on this topic. I don... Wed 17 Mar 2004, 16:09
The_Circle Well i totally agree that picking one of the 3 is ... Wed 17 Mar 2004, 19:56
editbrain geez! if you want a product that works and is... Wed 17 Mar 2004, 20:51
The_Circle Well thanks editbrain, i think i shall consider ge... Fri 19 Mar 2004, 13:38
pdgood Do any of you Logic users know if it has the indiv... Fri 19 Mar 2004, 14:27
sethjacquay Well...they are "on crack" aren't th... Fri 19 Mar 2004, 14:34
surrealka He he! Fri 19 Mar 2004, 22:14
gdoubleyou Steinberg has good ideas but fall short on executi... Fri 19 Mar 2004, 22:43
editbrain my goodness....i did not know that cubase was pinn... Sat 20 Mar 2004, 01:29
The_Circle surrealka,Maybe Logic is a bit harder to get along... Sat 20 Mar 2004, 17:27
surrealka You're absolutely right, and I hope I haven... Sun 21 Mar 2004, 21:12
Panopticon Well, count me as another crack abuser who finds D... Wed 24 Mar 2004, 09:54
rickenbacker I'd say the Logic Pro package offers over and ... Wed 24 Mar 2004, 16:28
The_Circle Hehe..it seems that most of whoever is in this for... Wed 24 Mar 2004, 21:08
gdoubleyou Maybe I have more experience but I didn't find... Thu 25 Mar 2004, 01:53
pdgood No one is taking the $$$ into accou... Thu 25 Mar 2004, 19:46
surrealka pdgood, yes DP has MIDI scrub. And good AU integra... Fri 26 Mar 2004, 00:22
gdoubleyou SX2 just had an update released, check Cubase.net ... Fri 26 Mar 2004, 01:00
newrigel If your a proficient performer (keyboadist) you re... Sat 27 Mar 2004, 18:44
surrealka I found this good article comparing different sequ... Sat 27 Mar 2004, 20:39
newrigel QUOTE (gdoubleyou @ Mar 26 2004, 00:00) SX2 ... Tue 30 Mar 2004, 21:36
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