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> Reason Vs Logic 6 Pro Synths/plugins?, "Noob" question- can logic's synths comp
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post Mon 23 Feb 2004, 05:28
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Ok- I understand that the main uses of each program is different, and that there are some (if not many) things that each can and cannot do that the other can, but I was wondering about the "sound creating abilities" of both as a whole.
I don't yet own either program, but was wondering if the synths and plugins in the upcoming Logic 6 PRO version are of any comparison or competition to that which Reason offers. Basically- could I simply buy Logic PRO and accomplish the same things on it's collection of synths, etc. without ever making anything in Reason.
I know it's commonplace to make sounds in Reason and import them to other "more professional" sequencers- but in terms of quality and so as to not waste money on redundant "equipment" purchases- is Reason still the way to go when creating sounds- or is Logic PRO's collection enough of an "arsenal"?

By the way- in case it matter at all- I'm definitely ordering Logic, but don't know if I need Reason for anything- and also what music I'm inspired by most, and might be most similar to in "feel" is music in the same vein as Nine Inch Nails, Prick, VAST, Tricky, Bjork, A Perfect Circle, Radiohead, etc.
Also- I'm more interested in guitars than "blips and bleeps" and making odd, previously unheard or unfamiliar sounds, and throwing them all together to get your head nodding.
Thanks for your help.

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Corey
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post Wed 25 Feb 2004, 12:38
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A few general Logic tips and winks...

Having everything based around a self-contained system such as Logic Pro is infinitely preferable to dozens of plug-ins and streaming protocols communicating between several programs. But!

It's still great to have other synths and VSTis to draw inspiration from sometimes. Logic's plugs are great, but don't necessarily cover every vibe and sound. Things like the electric piano, clavinet and hammond are pretty much untouchable, but all synths are different. So the ES1 and 2 are very cool, but there are lots of equally cool and worthy third-party synths out there.

Saying that, I wouldn't buy Reason to get them. I always prefer a purpose-built AudioUnit plug-in for Logic, rather than relying on ReWire and the consequent system drain.

Yes, Logic is a real nightmare to get to grips with. Ain't no getting around that. But if it was as basic as Garageband it wouldn't be half the program it is - all Logic's power, infinite flexibility and general all-round cleverness makes it a complicated proram by default. Once you get into it, though, you can appreciate what an excellent tool it is.

Read the friendly manuals - it's all in there. Use forums like this one or the Logic-specific one over at sonikmatter.com. Buy Logic Audio Workshop by Dave Bellingham (the chief moderator at Sonikmatter). Buy Apple's certified Logic training book.

And bear in mind that even seasoned pros (which I'm not) occasionally come up against gnarly problems and weird system glitches - we are talking about computers, after all!

Logic is so all-encompassing that it is an incredibly deep program. I probably only use about 2% of what it can do - I just use it like a 4-track on steroids, more of less, with a bit of funky computer-style editing on the side. But it's worth taking the time to learn what you need to know and then acquiring other knowledge as you continue your journey.

No right-click? Ctrl+click or Alt+click! That takes care of that. And learn the keyboard shortcuts in Logic and program your own - makes naviagting and communicating much snappier.
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