Side-chain Comp. Avec Plug-ins ?, compresseurs software |
Fri 30 Jan 2004, 02:29
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Hello macmusicorgouailles,
Je suis à la recherche d'un compresseur plug-in, de préférence VST, qui permette le side-chaining. Je crois que le C1 de Waves sait le faire, mais si vous connaissez qqchose de moins onéreux... Je précise que le side-chaining que je recherche n'est pas du "link" L-R, mais bien la fonction qui permet de ducker le canal 1 par ce qui entre dans le canal 2... Comment fait-on du side-chaining stereo ? Il faut prendre deux compresseurs réglés a l'identique ? Signal L traité par canal 2 (comp 1), et signal R traité par canal 2 (comp 2) ? Pas terrible, non ? Last question : Pour muscler une rythmique, en side-chainant basse et grosse caisse, vous asservissez la basse par la grosse caisse, ou l'inverse ? Tout ça dans l'optique d'un mixage final à 8 bus (4 Mo et 2 ST) afin d'éviter de faire de l'automation step-by-step, en modulant les signaux des bus entre eux (la voix compresse de x dB la caisse claire, la guitare atténue les nappes... vous voyez le topo). Merci d'avance à tous. -------------------- Something must have happened over Manhattan Who can expound all the children this time Could they ever, could they ever Expect such a Frankenstein, Frankenstein New York Dolls - New York Dolls (1973) - Frankenstein |
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Fri 30 Jan 2004, 02:58
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Maniac Member Group: Members Posts: 929 Joined: 10-Aug 03 From: Versailles - FR Member No.: 22,760 |
Bon, pour le coup du side-chaining stereo, j'ai trouvé la réponse dans le document PDF de Waves, "C1 Setup Guide".
Mais bon, au secours ! Vive le hardware dans ces cas-là ! Mais bonjour le prix... bon, je suppose qu'on peut toujours faire ses réglages en temps réel avec des réductions mono, puis suivre l'opération ci-dessous, que je copie-colle pour ceux que ça intéresse (et qui spiquent l'anglais facilement) : QUOTE Hint: If you wish to process or key a stereo signal by a mono keying signal, this cannot be done directly on the C1 because of its limitation to two channels of input. However, a stereo workaround exists as follows. Suppose that you start off with a file K of the keying signal and a stereo file B of the stereo signal to be processed. Use the mix option of Sound Designer II to mix two new stereo files BL and BR, where BL has a mono mix of K on the left channel and the left channel of B on the right channel of BL, and where BR has a mono mix of K on the left channel and the right channel of B on the right channel of BR. In order to preserve stereo balance later, use 100% gains for transferring channels of B to BL and BR, DO NOT use scaling, and ensure that all time delays in the mixing are zero. Then process both BL and BR with the setup you have chosen, taking care not to change any control values when processing the two files (again to ensure stereo balance is preserved). The resulting processed files PL and PR may now again be mixed into a new stereo file P by putting the right channel of PL onto the left channel of P and the right channel of PR onto the right channel of P again using the Sound Designer II mix option. P will be the desired processed stereo file. If one needs to mix the processed file with the unprocessed keying signal K, the last stage of preparing P may be bypassed, and the final mixed file M be obtained by mixing from PL, PR and K, putting the right channel of PL onto the left channel of M, the right channel of PR onto the right channel of M, and the original sound file K mixed and panned into M as desired. The C1 introduces no relative time delays between files even when lookahead is used, so that the files will stay in synchronism. If the keying sound is on the right channel and the sound to be dynamically processed is on the left channel, click the Key Mode button to the R -> L position. Where relevant, select the left channel signal before processing in this case. Vu que la méthode est applicable qqsoit le comp, les autres questions restent posées... -------------------- Something must have happened over Manhattan Who can expound all the children this time Could they ever, could they ever Expect such a Frankenstein, Frankenstein New York Dolls - New York Dolls (1973) - Frankenstein |
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bonatoc Side-chain Comp. Avec Plug-ins ? Fri 30 Jan 2004, 02:29
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