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post Wed 30 Jul 2003, 06:34
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Jusqu'ici j'avais toujours placé les tweeters à "l'extérieur" mais après lecture du manuel de mes nouvelles écoutes et placement comme conseillé j'ai eu la surprise de constater un confort d'écoute suplémentaire avec une lisibilité accrue...
Voici ce qu'ils disent :

STEREO NEARFIELD PLACEMENT OF THE
M1 ACTIVE MK2
NOTE: We recommend that the M1 Active Mk2 speakers be placed with the
tweeters to the inside , not the outside, of the listening triangle.
The “classic” studio monitor layout used to be that the tweeters be placed to
the outside of a horizontally-oriented speaker. In the past, this configuration
was actually beneficial in time aligning the tweeter with the woofer if the
cabinets were not toed-in toward the listener. However, this configuration is
highly prone to comb filtering effects if the listener’s head is moved from
side-to-side while mixing. This “comb filtering” causes the mid-to-high
frequency tones to get louder, then softer, then louder again as you move
your head from side-to-side, making it very confusing when trying to mix
with precision.
Some people still believe that stereo separation is “improved” with tweeters
to the outside, but this is advice left over from the early days (the sixties) of
stereo recordings when “correct” stereo often meant a complete hard right or
hard left placement of an instrument (or singer). As stereo mixing techniques
changed toward placing the vocalist (for example) in the center, the old
“tweeters-out” orientation would indeed widen the image if one’s head were
kept in the exact center position. But this set-up proves to be very tiring, very
quickly for the recording engineer. And, to others who are listening to the
mix from either side of the engineer, the sound will seem to be coming
primarily from the speaker closest to them.
Fortunately, recording techniques have changed radically since the sixties.
Engineers have learned to how to “place” an instrument or singer within the
mix so that an accurate re-creation of the actual instrument and vocal
positioning (left-to-right and front-to-back) is achieved. In the M1 Active
Mk2, advances in crossover design technologies and improvements in the offaxis
response of tweeter domes and woofer cone materials and profile have
made the requirement for tweeters to be placed to the outside of the cabinet
obsolete. In fact, using a non-toed-in, tweeters-out orientation with a
modern, wide dispersion design like the M1 Active Mk2 will increase the
likelihood of hearing unwanted first reflections and a variety of phase
anomalies in your mix.
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post Thu 31 Jul 2003, 11:07
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QUOTE (EJAD @ Jul 30 2003, 18:29)
Parce qu'avec 4 paires d'enceintes... wink.gif

Ben, où est le problème ?

De toutes façons, par principe, une enceinte avec des HP, ça ne peut pas bien fonctionner. Tu mets une basse qui fait un mi grave à environ 40 Hz, et une flûte qui fait un contre-ut à 1100 Hz environ. Le contre-ut (ou disons sa fondamentale) sort par le même HP que le mi grave et est donc affligé d'un effet doppler quand la membrane avance ou recule au rythme du mi. Le contre-ut est modulé en fréquence. CQFD. Non mais .... !!!!!!
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- EJAD   Placement Des Enceintes !   Wed 30 Jul 2003, 06:34
- - Messensib   Je n'ai pas de réponse, mais je me suis tjrs d...   Wed 30 Jul 2003, 08:00
- - brian holden   savez ce que disait Spector a ce sujet ? hein ...   Wed 30 Jul 2003, 11:03
- - EJAD   QUOTE (brian holden @ Jul 30 2003, 11:03)save...   Wed 30 Jul 2003, 15:36
- - zimuse   Si vous parlez tous des fréquences: oui ça devient...   Wed 30 Jul 2003, 16:08
- - EJAD   QUOTE (zimuse @ Jul 30 2003, 16:08)D'aill...   Wed 30 Jul 2003, 17:12
- - Messensib   QUOTE (EJAD @ Jul 30 2003, 18:12)Mais bon, le...   Wed 30 Jul 2003, 17:23
- - EJAD   Parce qu'avec 4 paires d'enceintes...   Wed 30 Jul 2003, 17:29
- - brian holden   Ah au fait ! le Spector y disait .... BACK TO...   Wed 30 Jul 2003, 18:31
- - Mr.T   Ouais c'est même c'qu'il s'entêtai...   Wed 30 Jul 2003, 19:03
- - clouvel   QUOTE (EJAD @ Jul 30 2003, 16:29)Parce qu...   Thu 31 Jul 2003, 10:15
- - brian holden   et c'est koitesse la solution, ô Grand Maitre ...   Thu 31 Jul 2003, 12:53
- - Messensib   QUOTE (brian holden @ Jul 31 2003, 13:53)et c...   Thu 31 Jul 2003, 14:07
- - brian holden   et la solution" custom" adoptée par Pier...   Thu 31 Jul 2003, 15:45
- - Messensib   Ben, c'est quoi ?   Thu 31 Jul 2003, 15:55
- - benji   QUOTE Mais bon, le placement des tweeters dehors o...   Thu 31 Jul 2003, 16:34
- - EJAD   Oh là ! Mes 4 paires d'enceintes ne fo...   Thu 31 Jul 2003, 18:30
- - Mr.T   Z'avez pas un peu fini de vous br*nler la noui...   Thu 31 Jul 2003, 18:48
- - zimuse   Oui et d'autant plus que les tweeters projette...   Thu 31 Jul 2003, 18:51


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