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Sun 23 Mar 2003, 01:11
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 12 Joined: 20-Mar 03 From: Falls Church - US Member No.: 14,689 |
Hello all. My name is Scott, and I am a newbie. Hello, Scott...
Okay, now that's out of the way, let me say that I have dug thorough this entire site as well as others, and I am still a little (lot) confused about the necessary equipment. I have used/demo'd - Ableton Live, Bias Peak and Deck, Spark ME, Storm, Reason, and Metro. Haven't tried PT or Logic yet. I am on a G3 slot-loading iMac, OSX 10.2.4. I may be upgrading the computer w/in the next year if necessary. All I want to do is record electric guitar and vocals into my imac, and do multitrack and editing on the computer. Also, I need some type of drum machine, beats, etc. Basically just looking to record my own songs for my own use (for now). I don't have any other hardware (keyboard or midi-controller), but would consider getting an inexpensive one. After all that, finally to the question at hand. What do I need to effectively do this? Live, Deck, and Metro seem to be the same to me in that they will let you multi-track. I like Spark a lot, and don't see where Peak is any better as a pure recorder. I could not figure out Storm or Reason. Not sure I really need all the midi-synth stuff. But I do NEED drum tracks. Any suggestions, on software and hardware that I should look into? Sorry for such a long request. Thanks. Scott |
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Sun 23 Mar 2003, 07:34
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 235 Joined: 25-Jul 02 From: Strongsville - US Member No.: 6,217 |
Hi Scott,
I don't know enough about every program to comment, but here's a few random thoughts: As you probably figured out, Peak and Spark won't get you anywhere for multitracking. Your decision depends not only on what you want to do now, but also what capabilities you might want in the future. If you really won't have any use for MIDI sequencing, Deck seems a reasonable way to go. Can you still boot into OS9 with your iMac? If so, you really might want to consider downloading ProTools Free, which will give you up to 8 audio tracks, but doesn't work in OSX yet (but it's free!). Metro 6 SE seems kinda cool - and cheap. Plus, Metro is the only existing DAW that supports both Audio Units and VST plugs (but that won't matter unless you are going to require third party effects, etc.). There are no Logic demos, but it might be overkill for your needs anyway. I use Reason, primarily as a drum machine (at least for now). It's a little intimidating at first, but if you buy it, the manual will get you going. The Redrum module within Reason allows drum patterns to be programmed like a step sequencer. You don't absolutely need a keyboard controller to do this, and it will run in both OSX and OS9 (in case you take the PT Free route). I don't know anything about Storm, or other drum machine apps for that matter. I would also suggest looking into Cubase SL or SX - considerable multitrack capabilities, full on MIDI sequencing and the like - but Cubase also features a built in drum machine. OSX only. Now, correct me if I'm wrong - the older iMacs have audio inputs, right? I guess you could get away with that using the built in sound controller, but if you want better sound quality, and particularly if you want to track guitar and vocals simultaneously, you will need an audio interface. There's tons of threads on this site about recommended interfaces for various needs. You'll need to think about how many inputs you require (or will in the future). Meanwhile, there's a lot to think about, and quite possibly a lot of money to come up with! Hope this helps some. |
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macshark Essential Stuff? Sun 23 Mar 2003, 01:11
macshark xingu, Thanks for your great reply. I cannot boo... Sun 23 Mar 2003, 16:18
macshark Hey, I see two packages for sale at audiomidi.com... Sun 23 Mar 2003, 19:01
xingu QUOTE (macshark @ Mar 23 2003, 10:18)So, you ... Sun 23 Mar 2003, 22:01
macshark Thanks again, xingu. I really have read through m... Mon 24 Mar 2003, 01:45
xingu No problem, glad to be of help with my limited sco... Mon 24 Mar 2003, 02:23
rickenbacker Another way of exporting Reason files is to save t... Mon 24 Mar 2003, 11:45
xingu Oh yeah - I forgot to re-emphasize Cubase SL, whic... Mon 24 Mar 2003, 13:51
rickenbacker If you're not in a financial position to lash ... Mon 24 Mar 2003, 18:41
xingu QUOTE (rickenbacker @ Mar 24 2003, 12:41)Fina... Mon 24 Mar 2003, 18:51
macshark If you go the Logic route, that Gold Production Ki... Tue 25 Mar 2003, 01:24
rickenbacker "Again, thanks again to both of you. You... Tue 25 Mar 2003, 12:27
xingu QUOTE you could probably use the EXSP24 sample pla... Tue 25 Mar 2003, 13:46
macshark QUOTE (rickenbacker @ Mar 25 2003, 11:27)... Tue 25 Mar 2003, 23:11
xingu No, the Oxygen8 only sends MIDI. There's quit... Wed 26 Mar 2003, 02:25
rickenbacker This Tascam sounds like another interesting develo... Wed 26 Mar 2003, 09:54
xingu Yeah, alot of people on the Tascam board were yawn... Wed 26 Mar 2003, 13:40
macshark Great ideas. I think I will start slow, and build... Wed 26 Mar 2003, 21:30
xingu Sounds like a plan... Since you're going to h... Wed 26 Mar 2003, 21:43
dr. schoft Macshark i hope you dont feel interrupted in your ... Wed 26 Mar 2003, 22:54
macshark Dr. Schoft, Thanks, and I agree with you complete... Wed 26 Mar 2003, 23:15
xingu QUOTE (macshark @ Mar 26 2003, 17:15)Also, ma... Wed 26 Mar 2003, 23:36
macshark Well, while we have a plan, looks like the Logic B... Fri 28 Mar 2003, 21:45
macshark Hey, me again. Any advice - Logic 5.5 Big Box is ... Fri 4 Apr 2003, 00:33
xingu If you're in the U.S., yes, you'll get the... Fri 4 Apr 2003, 00:55
macshark xingu, Thanks for your great reply. I cannot boo... Sun 23 Mar 2003, 16:18
macshark Hey, I see two packages for sale at audiomidi.com... Sun 23 Mar 2003, 19:01
xingu QUOTE (macshark @ Mar 23 2003, 10:18)So, you ... Sun 23 Mar 2003, 22:01
macshark Thanks again, xingu. I really have read through m... Mon 24 Mar 2003, 01:45
xingu No problem, glad to be of help with my limited sco... Mon 24 Mar 2003, 02:23
rickenbacker Another way of exporting Reason files is to save t... Mon 24 Mar 2003, 11:45
xingu Oh yeah - I forgot to re-emphasize Cubase SL, whic... Mon 24 Mar 2003, 13:51
rickenbacker If you're not in a financial position to lash ... Mon 24 Mar 2003, 18:41
xingu QUOTE (rickenbacker @ Mar 24 2003, 12:41)Fina... Mon 24 Mar 2003, 18:51
macshark If you go the Logic route, that Gold Production Ki... Tue 25 Mar 2003, 01:24
rickenbacker "Again, thanks again to both of you. You... Tue 25 Mar 2003, 12:27
xingu QUOTE you could probably use the EXSP24 sample pla... Tue 25 Mar 2003, 13:46
macshark QUOTE (rickenbacker @ Mar 25 2003, 11:27)... Tue 25 Mar 2003, 23:11
xingu No, the Oxygen8 only sends MIDI. There's quit... Wed 26 Mar 2003, 02:25
rickenbacker This Tascam sounds like another interesting develo... Wed 26 Mar 2003, 09:54
xingu Yeah, alot of people on the Tascam board were yawn... Wed 26 Mar 2003, 13:40
macshark Great ideas. I think I will start slow, and build... Wed 26 Mar 2003, 21:30
xingu Sounds like a plan... Since you're going to h... Wed 26 Mar 2003, 21:43
dr. schoft Macshark i hope you dont feel interrupted in your ... Wed 26 Mar 2003, 22:54
macshark Dr. Schoft, Thanks, and I agree with you complete... Wed 26 Mar 2003, 23:15
xingu QUOTE (macshark @ Mar 26 2003, 17:15)Also, ma... Wed 26 Mar 2003, 23:36
macshark Well, while we have a plan, looks like the Logic B... Fri 28 Mar 2003, 21:45
macshark Hey, me again. Any advice - Logic 5.5 Big Box is ... Fri 4 Apr 2003, 00:33
xingu If you're in the U.S., yes, you'll get the... Fri 4 Apr 2003, 00:55
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