Live 2.01 Impressions, or "ableton listens, users rejoice" |
Tue 24 Dec 2002, 10:44
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Moderator Group: Members Posts: 90 Joined: 10-Jul 02 From: Weimar - DE Member No.: 5,666 |
Paid my 80 Euros to upgrade to Live 2.0 a couple of days ago. Awesome new features like different timestretch engines (acoustic guitar tracks actually can be used in Live now), ability to turn those engines off for individual samples, better automatization, etc.
Performance looks to be the same like 1.5 - which means that it still isn't Altivec optimized, and faster on PCs, but the Ableton guys are Mac users themselves and are promising to add this (requiring a bunch of rewrites) for the next upgrade. Anyways, especially with software like Live the performance is nowhere near as important as creativity. |
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Wed 25 Dec 2002, 16:38
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Moderator Group: Members Posts: 90 Joined: 10-Jul 02 From: Weimar - DE Member No.: 5,666 |
with "sampling your inputs" I simply meant recording something you play, for instance on guitar or keyboard, directly into Live/Logic so that you have a waveform you can loop and work with.
when working with melodies within Reason you will always input notes and values with the mouse (unless you own an external midi keyboard like the Midiman Oxygen 8), something that may work for dance music (not in my opinion, but that's another topic), but you end up with "quantized" music that doesn't groove/swing/whatever unless you reallyreally know how to construct melodies in a software sequencer or know how to write sheet music. I'm also a declared enemy of "factory presets" - and Reason comes with 2 CDs of samples and patches other people made. they sound great, but spotting a track made with Reason is pretty easy... I prefer to make my own (even though they may be of worse quality), but that's just me. again though, Reason also lets you do that. for the 450€ it costs you can almost get a used Logic Platinum on ebay here in Germany though... |
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filarion Live 2.01 Impressions Tue 24 Dec 2002, 10:44
charlieb Hi, I read a post the other day about Logic and do... Tue 24 Dec 2002, 10:59
filarion Difficult to answer without knowing what kind of m... Tue 24 Dec 2002, 11:11
charlieb filarion, Thanks so much for your opinion. And I a... Tue 24 Dec 2002, 11:44
filarion mmh. there used to be a "fun" version wi... Tue 24 Dec 2002, 12:32
charlieb QUOTE (filarion @ Dec 24 2002, 10:11)Live + R... Wed 25 Dec 2002, 00:31
filarion QUOTE (charlieb @ Dec 25 2002, 01:31)You say ... Wed 25 Dec 2002, 00:50
charlieb QUOTE (filarion @ Dec 24 2002, 23:50)of cours... Wed 25 Dec 2002, 08:19
filarion your work sounds very interesting and I think that... Wed 25 Dec 2002, 14:04
charlieb QUOTE (filarion @ Dec 25 2002, 13:04)from an ... Wed 25 Dec 2002, 14:39
charlieb QUOTE (filarion @ Dec 25 2002, 15:38)when wor... Thu 26 Dec 2002, 03:50
Levon River QUOTE (charlieb @ Dec 26 2002, 02:50)I unders... Thu 26 Dec 2002, 08:46
filarion thanks for contrapuncting me Levon River, I almost... Thu 26 Dec 2002, 10:38
Levon River QUOTE (filarion @ Dec 26 2002, 09:38)thanks f... Thu 26 Dec 2002, 18:20
charlieb Thanks to Levon for a great detailed post, and tha... Fri 27 Dec 2002, 06:11
wonx Charlie, I don't know if you would qualify fo... Fri 27 Dec 2002, 08:04
charlieb QUOTE (wonx @ Dec 27 2002, 07:04)I don't ... Fri 27 Dec 2002, 09:47
filarion wow, at $199 Reason 2's definitely worth ... Fri 27 Dec 2002, 11:28
wonx My bad! www.mtlc.net It stands for Music Tec... Fri 27 Dec 2002, 19:33
charlieb Thanx Wonx, I am going to give the address a try. ... Sat 28 Dec 2002, 02:19
Levon River QUOTE (charlieb @ Dec 27 2002, 05:11)Seems to... Sat 28 Dec 2002, 07:01
Levon River QUOTE (wonx @ Dec 27 2002, 07:04)Levon, I... Sat 28 Dec 2002, 07:48
wonx Levon- That would be swell if you could throwsomet... Mon 30 Dec 2002, 08:52
Myerzman YO! What a great thread. I'm looking at bo... Wed 23 Apr 2003, 02:29
charlieb Hi, I read a post the other day about Logic and do... Tue 24 Dec 2002, 10:59
filarion Difficult to answer without knowing what kind of m... Tue 24 Dec 2002, 11:11
charlieb filarion, Thanks so much for your opinion. And I a... Tue 24 Dec 2002, 11:44
filarion mmh. there used to be a "fun" version wi... Tue 24 Dec 2002, 12:32
charlieb QUOTE (filarion @ Dec 24 2002, 10:11)Live + R... Wed 25 Dec 2002, 00:31
filarion QUOTE (charlieb @ Dec 25 2002, 01:31)You say ... Wed 25 Dec 2002, 00:50
charlieb QUOTE (filarion @ Dec 24 2002, 23:50)of cours... Wed 25 Dec 2002, 08:19
filarion your work sounds very interesting and I think that... Wed 25 Dec 2002, 14:04
charlieb QUOTE (filarion @ Dec 25 2002, 13:04)from an ... Wed 25 Dec 2002, 14:39
charlieb QUOTE (filarion @ Dec 25 2002, 15:38)when wor... Thu 26 Dec 2002, 03:50
Levon River QUOTE (charlieb @ Dec 26 2002, 02:50)I unders... Thu 26 Dec 2002, 08:46
filarion thanks for contrapuncting me Levon River, I almost... Thu 26 Dec 2002, 10:38
Levon River QUOTE (filarion @ Dec 26 2002, 09:38)thanks f... Thu 26 Dec 2002, 18:20
charlieb Thanks to Levon for a great detailed post, and tha... Fri 27 Dec 2002, 06:11
wonx Charlie, I don't know if you would qualify fo... Fri 27 Dec 2002, 08:04
charlieb QUOTE (wonx @ Dec 27 2002, 07:04)I don't ... Fri 27 Dec 2002, 09:47
filarion wow, at $199 Reason 2's definitely worth ... Fri 27 Dec 2002, 11:28
wonx My bad! www.mtlc.net It stands for Music Tec... Fri 27 Dec 2002, 19:33
charlieb Thanx Wonx, I am going to give the address a try. ... Sat 28 Dec 2002, 02:19
Levon River QUOTE (charlieb @ Dec 27 2002, 05:11)Seems to... Sat 28 Dec 2002, 07:01
Levon River QUOTE (wonx @ Dec 27 2002, 07:04)Levon, I... Sat 28 Dec 2002, 07:48
wonx Levon- That would be swell if you could throwsomet... Mon 30 Dec 2002, 08:52
Myerzman YO! What a great thread. I'm looking at bo... Wed 23 Apr 2003, 02:29
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