Midi Gliss..please Help! Options

[highlander2]

Im trying to produce a realistic gliss (portamento, or glide) between two notes or two intervals of a solo string sampled instrument.

I want to be able to specify the starting and ending notes or intervals, and have them seen, sound, and show up as such, in a notation program, and in the sequencers notation.

Any SPECIFIC ideas how to do this?

Any help will be GRATEFULLY appreciated!

Thanks Bob


PS:
the ways Ive seen online are the following:

1)

****This method requires that your MIDI device supports standard “Registered Parameter Messages”
(RPMs), which is common but not universal.

1. Set controllers RPN (100 for MSB and 101 for LSB) to 0.
2. Set data entry (controller 6(MSB) and 38(LSB)) to the number of semitones and 128ths of a semitone that you need. For example, setting controller 6 to 12 will allow you to have 12 semitones (1 octave) as the maximum range up and down. The default range is 2 semitones usually
3. Now, at the places where glissando or portamento is required, create curves in pitch bend (NOT a controller!). You should take into account the range you set above. E.g. a curve from pitch bend 0 to 4096 will be a glissando from the original note to 6 semitones above (augmented fourth); a curve from 0 to -1365 will be a sliding from the original note to 2 semitones below--provided that you set data entry to 12. If you set data entry to 6, however, the same pitch bends will give you half the effect (i.e. 3 semitones above and 1 semitone below, respectively).
4. Be sure to set pitch bend back to 0 after the glissando passage is done (it is not reset by controller 121, since it's not a controller).

--The problems I've had with the above is that you cant specify BOTH intervals, as one is sounded by a pitch bend event, and I cant get more that 4 semitones pitch bend, even though CC#6 is set to 12
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2)

Portamento

*** This control change is not supported by all MIDI devices

Portamento is a smooth “glide” from one note to another (rather like a glissando played on a trombone).
1) Set CC#5 to 0–127, which controls the length of time taken to perform the portamento (0 is fastest, 127 is slowest),
2( Set CC#84 to 0–127 which determines the distance of the portamento (values below 60 start below the note, values above 60 start above
the note; the precise interval depends on the MIDI device).

So you must first “set up” the portamento effect with a CC#5 message, and then attach the CC#84 message to the note on which the portamento occurs.

---The problems Ive had with the above is that it simply does nothing, so it must not be supported, in my equipment.

Again, Any help will be GRATEFULLY appreciated!

[houstonmusic]

This one's a holy grail. While any composer would simply notate starting and target pitches and let the performer do the rest. SAMPLERS just don't work that way.

i do appreciate the scripting possibilities in Kontakt.... i've got some great sounding slides in some of the more expensive string libraries. Are they convincing past 3 semi tones? No. can i control the speed? No.

Physical Modeling allows this sort of thing, but not really sampling. There are libraries with a collection of slides and glisses included. patient, clever programming on your part can make the "performance" sound fairly convincing and musical.

lately, i've been writing out parts, hiring human beings, and recording performances. remarkable.
good luck.