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monkeyman
post Fri 22 Nov 2002, 13:28
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I am interested in creating music and would love to start creating more again. However, I don't have much software. I am mostly interested in electronic music, and don't really see the possibility of the need to use real instruments. Therefore, can anyone recommend a decent starting point. I have heard of a software program called Reason. Would this be seen as the best piece of software for an electronically focused musician ?

Any comments or suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks.
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post Sun 15 Dec 2002, 20:38
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OK, Rysode first! biggrin.gif

You say you can get Live and Reason talking together in OS X? How'd you do that, then? My option is greyed out. If you can give us a quick run through, that would be a big help. As I say, I only tried it for the first time the other day after my conversation with the Steinberg guy (marketing or customer support? They're almost one and the same these days), so if it can be done that would be a revelation.

Cubase SX is definitely ReWire 2 ready - at least, that's what it says on the box. I may be getting a copy soon, so I can check it for real then. Logic's ReWire implementation, meanwhile, seems to have petered out somewhat with version 5.

I agree about Steinberg and VST - it's a shame all the music companies couldn't agree to seize the opportunity to rally around the newer and better Audio Units format with the move to OS X.

Now Charlieb: no problemo with the support or patience! cool.gif

ReWire, as you may have guessed, allows you to hook two or more compatible programs together. The idea is so you can enjoy the major strengths of both in one working environment. Say with Live and Reason: hooked together via ReWire, you can use the rhythms and synths of Reason, then add live audio recorded in Live. Or Reason and Cubase SX: output the synths etc from Reason and use the better sequencer, FX, live audio recording features etc in Cubase to finish your track.

As for your point 2, you seem to have a good handle on it. Most sequencers these days also bundle some sort of soft synth to actually play your tune on as well as the building blocks for constructing the song. So the Logic Big Box has an electric piano, a decent synth and a sample player (note: playback only). Plus you can record your live audio into the sequencer as well. No drum machine, though, so you'd need to use the EXSP for loops. Almost an all-in-one total solution.

Cubase has a drum machine included (pretty basic, but better than a metronome as you build your song up) plus another bass synth and some decent FX. It's almost impossible to decide definitively which sequencer is best - they've all got something special to offer. Personally, I like the fact that Cubase comes with a Vocoder and some other nice FX touches, but I also like Logic's 3 internal synths (they come with Platinum, not sure about Silver - check that out).

So to come full circle, ReWire is just a protocol (designed by Propellerhead Software, who make Reason) to allow two music programs to talk to each other. Basically, every computer musician has their preferred sequencer and then usually an additional collection of software synths and drum machines that "plug-in" (using one method or another - VST, Audio Units, ReWire etc) to the main sequencer, which is where the song is built up from the constituent parts and completed.

Wow, hope that all makes sense. smile.gif

Maybe buy that magazine Rysode mentioned? blink.gif
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- monkeyman   Just Gettin' Started   Fri 22 Nov 2002, 13:28
- - Levon River   Reason is outstanding. It gives you both: samplers...   Fri 22 Nov 2002, 14:13
- - karambos   monkeyman, I can't admit to having personally...   Sat 23 Nov 2002, 07:45
- - monkeyman   Thanks for the advice from both of you. Much appre...   Mon 25 Nov 2002, 03:21
- - charlieb   In a similar vein to the leading question in this ...   Wed 27 Nov 2002, 12:39
- - charlieb   Fruity Loops is only for PC, yes?   Wed 27 Nov 2002, 14:58
- - Levon River   QUOTE (charlieb @ Nov 27 2002, 11:39)What I w...   Wed 27 Nov 2002, 15:32
- - Presto   There are sofware solutions for the sounds which d...   Wed 27 Nov 2002, 16:21
- - charlieb   Thanks Presto! So, if I was to record my voic...   Thu 28 Nov 2002, 07:20
- - charlieb   Hi Levon, What is an APA forum? Thanks, charlie   Thu 28 Nov 2002, 07:23
- - rickenbacker   Charlieb: you might like to try Storm 2.0 from Art...   Thu 28 Nov 2002, 12:38
- - charlieb   Wow, this is all so complicated! I spent a few...   Wed 11 Dec 2002, 13:33
- - nyc_joe   Hello and thanx for the advice. I've gleened a...   Thu 12 Dec 2002, 16:30
- - charlieb   QUOTE (rickenbacker @ Nov 28 2002, 11:38)Char...   Fri 13 Dec 2002, 06:45
- - rickenbacker   Charlieb: with a USB Midi keyboard, you just plug ...   Fri 13 Dec 2002, 15:38
- - rickenbacker   Charlieb: with a USB Midi keyboard, you just plug ...   Fri 13 Dec 2002, 15:40
- - charlieb   QUOTE (rickenbacker @ Dec 13 2002, 14:40)M-Au...   Sat 14 Dec 2002, 04:20
- - rickenbacker   Charlieb: exactly. That's why these new keyboa...   Sat 14 Dec 2002, 15:50
- - charlieb   QUOTE (rickenbacker @ Dec 14 2002, 14:50)But ...   Sun 15 Dec 2002, 04:58
- - ryosode   QUOTE (rickenbacker @ Dec 14 2002, 06:50)Turn...   Sun 15 Dec 2002, 18:28
- - ryosode   BTW, in case someone's interested, this month...   Sun 15 Dec 2002, 18:35
- - charlieb   RICKENBACKER, Thanks so much. You have helped me a...   Mon 16 Dec 2002, 04:03
- - ryosode   Let's see what's going on. Here's my s...   Mon 16 Dec 2002, 20:20
- - charlieb   Rysode, Rickenbacker, and others, For someone like...   Tue 17 Dec 2002, 00:55
- - charlieb   ANNDDD In regard to ReWire I am confused now, beca...   Tue 17 Dec 2002, 04:16
- - ryosode   let's see. I am planning on buying a Logic pla...   Tue 17 Dec 2002, 10:43
- - rickenbacker   Rysode: thanks for the tip. I'll check that ou...   Tue 17 Dec 2002, 13:09
- - charlieb   Thanks so much guys! I live in Japan, and now ...   Tue 17 Dec 2002, 14:23
- - ryosode   Chalie, Yes as Rickenbacker mentioned Edirol (Rol...   Tue 17 Dec 2002, 21:33
- - charlieb   QUOTE (ryosode @ Dec 17 2002, 20:33)Yes as Ri...   Wed 18 Dec 2002, 00:49
- - rickenbacker   Charlieb: I'd have thought the Edirol/Roland k...   Wed 18 Dec 2002, 12:20
- - ryosode   QUOTE (charlieb @ Dec 17 2002, 15:49)Soo, bet...   Thu 19 Dec 2002, 00:30
- - ryosode   Oops, I mean "If you can , go to Akihabara or...   Thu 19 Dec 2002, 00:33
- - charlieb   QUOTE (ryosode @ Dec 18 2002, 23:30)The price...   Thu 19 Dec 2002, 03:12
- - charlieb   In regard to my Virtual Memory problem... Duhhh, I...   Fri 20 Dec 2002, 04:21
- - bordy97   QUOTE I am mostly interested in electronic music, ...   Tue 1 Jul 2003, 06:28


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