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torchsong
post Wed 20 Nov 2002, 03:17
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Hi, new girl here with lots of questions about hardware and software.
I've read just about everything I can that is somewhat related to my situation but still have ????

I am a cellist and vocalist and want to make backing tracks to play with live and also make demo recordings on my computer. I come from the portastudio school of home recordings so the MIDI stuff is making me nuts!

Here's what I have:
imac running OS 9.2
DX7
Boss DRmkII
Behringer Eurorack
MOTU Fast Lane
Metro 5
OMS 2.3.8 grrrrrrr.....
cello with pickup (although I usually am miked for studio recording)
guitars
cables

I've tried to keep the basic set up simple but am having problems with OMS I think. Metro doesn't seem to like to work with Free MIDI.
I am also having problems playing back audio after recording a track, how am I supposed to hear what I've played to do over dubs?

BTW, I downloaded Pro Tools Free to try it out and just can't get the thing to open (memory error 1,010) so I gave up and went with Metro instead because it was inexpensive to start.

Thanks for any help, this is a great site!
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Levon River
post Fri 6 Dec 2002, 17:44
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QUOTE (torchsong @ Dec 4 2002, 06:51)
aah yeah, playing music the old fashioned way... with a bow! biggrin.gif

<Sigh> At least it doesn't have ins and outs. biggrin.gif

QUOTE (torchsong @ Dec 4 2002, 06:51)
I took a break for holiday and family stuff, thinking that when I returned to this everything would work... wink.gif  

Ahhh, yes: the metaphysical approach to MIDI. Tried it many times.

QUOTE (torchsong @ Dec 4 2002, 06:51)
Extensions seem to be under control, no conflicts but I still have no sound when I play the DX7 and no sound when testing the set up in OMS or with Free MIDI. What gives???

Good on the extensions. You're absolutely going to have to break down this MIDI vs. audio mess into two separate, distinct parts, and there are only two ways I know of to go about it, both of which include being able to hear your MIDI device (the DX-7) one way or another:

1. Ignore computer audio to solve the MIDI aspects, which means you'll have to have the output of the DX-7 either going directly>amp>speakers (or listening to it with headphones) while you debug the MIDI, or,

2. Ignore computer MIDI problems completely while solving the computer audio situation, meaning you run the output of the DX-7 through the computer, and do *nothing* with the MIDI part, only play the DX-7 yourself by hand until you KNOW you are hearing it through the computer (and/or until you get recorded tracks playing back so you can hear them--I've gotten lost, now, on whether you can get NO sound out, or only from your DX-7).

Once you have ONE or the OTHER solved completely, then and *only* then should you start on the other. I've said this till I'm blue in the face, but you still seem to be trying to solve both simultaneously.

QUOTE (torchsong @ Dec 4 2002, 06:51)
I made separate sets of extensions for each application so I'm running one or the other (OMS/FreeMIDI) not both at the same time. (and no graphics stuff either!) Will this help?


Of course it will help. Anything you can do to reduce variables helps when you're trying to narrow down the problem.

QUOTE (torchsong @ Dec 4 2002, 06:51)
ProTools Free still refuses to work


Come on, torchsong: what does *that* mean? Never mind; rhetorical question. But it's just adding more confusion. You need to solve first your audio *OR* MIDI problems (ONE and *only* one of those), then solve the *other* (audio or MIDI), *then* you can start determining wheter programs that use both of those things are working or not. And not until then. And the programs work.

QUOTE (torchsong @ Dec 4 2002, 06:51)
It is embarrassing to have to post these requests for help because it probably is something really basic causing the problem blink.gif  


Lots and lots of people go through it to begin with, so it's no cause for embarrassment--unless you persist (a-HEM!) in not doing the things people suggest to solve it.

QUOTE (torchsong @ Dec 4 2002, 06:51)
I still have my hair but the dent in my head is getting bigger laugh.gif  


Oh, that's normal: it's when you start denting the *furniture* that you need to start getting concerned... laugh.gif

QUOTE (torchsong @ Dec 4 2002, 06:51)
I tried Metro first because of cost (cheep!) but now I'm wondering if it was worth the headache  :sad: smile.gif  


Horsepuckey. Fortunately kaboombahchuck is on hand as a fellow Metro user and can guide you through those whitewaters. But you ain't even got yer raft wet yet, and won't have until you separate out the audio and MIDI situations and get both working with certainty. Then is when you can start exploring the eccentricities of any given DAW or sequencer packages--and not until then. wink.gif
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- torchsong   New With ??? About My Set Up   Wed 20 Nov 2002, 03:17
- - Levon River   Hi, torchsong. First step of trouble-shooting is t...   Wed 20 Nov 2002, 03:57
- - torchsong   Thanks for the reply Yes to questions 1-4 and the ...   Wed 20 Nov 2002, 07:56
- - Levon River   Good on 1-4. But you earlier said: "...the MI...   Wed 20 Nov 2002, 14:21
- - torchsong   I went back to try and reasses where I was having ...   Thu 21 Nov 2002, 20:05
- - Levon River   Girl, you got more than MIDI problems. But I'v...   Thu 21 Nov 2002, 23:00
- - Levon River   Wait a minute! Did I just hear you say "N...   Thu 21 Nov 2002, 23:07
- - Teiwaz   The alternative to Norton Utilities is Tech Tool P...   Fri 22 Nov 2002, 02:05
- - torchsong   new day, same s**t... Every application on my com...   Fri 22 Nov 2002, 21:00
- - Levon River   QUOTE (torchsong @ Nov 22 2002, 20:00)new day...   Fri 22 Nov 2002, 22:42
- - torchsong   Light candle and commence... [QUOTE]Hmmm. Well, t...   Sat 23 Nov 2002, 23:15
- - damann   hi torchsong, nothing works "bes...   Sun 24 Nov 2002, 04:53
- - Tone   Greetings all I read the comment by damann on MID...   Sun 24 Nov 2002, 06:43
- - Levon River   QUOTE (Tone @ Nov 24 2002, 05:43)I trust the ...   Sun 24 Nov 2002, 16:37
- - Levon River   QUOTE (torchsong @ Nov 23 2002, 22:15)Free MI...   Sun 24 Nov 2002, 17:12
- - Tone   Levon Thanks for the direction I suspected Sound...   Mon 25 Nov 2002, 02:11
- - Levon River   QUOTE (Tone @ Nov 25 2002, 01:11)I suspected ...   Mon 25 Nov 2002, 02:34
- - Levon River   Ummmm, torchsong? Where'd you go? Oh, well......   Sat 30 Nov 2002, 03:36
- - torchsong   aah yeah, playing music the old fashioned way... w...   Wed 4 Dec 2002, 07:51
- - kaboombahchuck   Well hello! Sorry I did not look at this one s...   Wed 4 Dec 2002, 09:45
- - torchsong   Thanks for your help Kaboombachuck and Levon. Unfo...   Wed 11 Dec 2002, 08:14
- - kaboombahchuck   Welcome back! First things first... Are you ...   Wed 11 Dec 2002, 10:02
- - BagHun   Shall I jump in at this point? Yes! ----------...   Wed 11 Dec 2002, 20:06
- - Levon River   Well, torchsong, you've drawn a crowd and are ...   Thu 12 Dec 2002, 09:18


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