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> External Hard Drives, Do I really need Glyph?
Tim
post Fri 28 Jun 2002, 00:49
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I'm getting a Powerbook and will be running ProTools LE and Absynth...at least for now. Some guys at a music store I am working with are making me think that I need a Glyph drive for my external hard drive. Now, I do know that i want an external drive, because i don't want to tax the Powerbook drive with the audio I record and playback. But, the Glyph drives are so expensive. I just looked at a Mac Warehouse Catelog and saw 7200 RPM, 80gig firewire drives for a little over $200. Won't this suffice. The 80gig Glyph Companion drive is $500.

Anybody using drives from LaCie, Que, etc? Any problems or rumored problems?

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Tim.
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post Mon 2 Dec 2002, 12:31
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Pardon the warming-up of leftovers from the back of the fridge, fellas -- looks like this topic's been dormant for a couple months. I thought it might be nice, though, in my first post here to share some (hopefully) useful information I've found, and possibly get an answer to my question. I couldn't find any recent updated thorough info on this as of last week, so I did a little digging myself.

Of the pros I spoke with who are currently either using or building their Mac-based digital home studios, most are saying the same things, which are as follows.

First off, FireWire external drives are the most popular choice. They're easy to implement, cheap, fast, and reliable.

Two main components are to be considered in the process of shopping for an external FireWire drive: The IDE drive itself, and the "box" within which it resides.

The drive's size is somewhat important-- those that have a 40GB or smaller all say they wish they'd paid the extra cash for an 80GB; those with 80GB or higher are happy.
The drive's SPEED is more important-- all recommend 7200rpm drives. Also, if you can get it already formatted for Mac, that's even better, as the formatting process can be a bit weird over FireWire...? I don't know enough about this. More digging for another future post, perhaps.

Now for the box-- the most important features (in order) are the chipset, case material, and items inside the case other than the chipset and drive. Consistently the Oxford 911 chipset was recommended. Aluminum is the case material of choice because of its heat-dissipating qualities. And fans, even "quiet" ones, are generally avoided (and not really needed with aluminum cases anyway). Also, if you can get a case with an external power supply, this reduces the heat in the case even more (though it might add another "wall wart" AC Power Adaptor to your setup-- blechh!!).

With that in mind... You can buy an ideal drive (80GB, 7200RPM) for well under $100 US dollars, and a good case (Oxford 911 chipset, aluminum case, no fan, external power supply) for around $50 through the right auction.

One thing I didn't even think to ask of the people I spoke to (and they didn't mention it, so maybe it's not a big deal?) was the cache size -- 2MB is common, 8MB is possible but not as readily available. ANYONE, do you know if this is a concern?

FYI www.eshop.macsales.com has a pretty decent deal going right now-- one of their setups is for a 100GB drive with the 8MB cache and all the other good things mentioned above, plus a 2yr warranty, for around $275. Still think dropping $400 on a comparable Glyph drive is worth it?

Cheers, all -- and if you find out about that whole cache conundrum, fill me in, k?
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- Tim   External Hard Drives   Fri 28 Jun 2002, 00:49
- - discostu131   First off, im no expert, and i dont really know wh...   Fri 28 Jun 2002, 18:41
- - lepetitmartien   Hum… Do you really want to put a foot on the ladd...   Sat 29 Jun 2002, 03:11
- - damann   oh yes, a hard drive is a hard drive, a marketing ...   Wed 3 Jul 2002, 02:54
- - Stuartpa   No doubt about it at all, you can put the exact sa...   Sun 22 Sep 2002, 22:37
- - rickenbacker   It's not true that every hard disk is exactly ...   Mon 23 Sep 2002, 14:35
- - Synthetic   Stuartpa has a good point. Glyph "tunes...   Mon 23 Sep 2002, 16:51
- - damann   QUOTE (Tim @ Jun 27 2002, 23:49)But, the Glyp...   Mon 23 Sep 2002, 17:10
- - Synthetic   hmm... never new firewire drives were actually ide...   Mon 23 Sep 2002, 19:48
- - damann   hi synthetic, please look into this (i'm sure...   Tue 24 Sep 2002, 01:34
- - rickenbacker   I don't get p*$$ed off with replies ...   Tue 24 Sep 2002, 16:18
- - Presto   Aha! I use an Mbox too. I didn't realise t...   Tue 24 Sep 2002, 19:26
- - damann   hi rickenbacker, just trying to be polite. i'v...   Wed 25 Sep 2002, 00:18
- - Presto   I've been thinking. I'm a bit slow but her...   Wed 25 Sep 2002, 10:01
- - beezkneez   i don't know whether the glyph is better but a...   Wed 25 Sep 2002, 11:42
- - rickenbacker   Hey Damann, Thanks for the tip. I've seen the...   Wed 25 Sep 2002, 15:39
- - damann   hi rickenbacker, the noise is, as with the glyph, ...   Thu 26 Sep 2002, 00:59
- - lepetitmartien   We had already a thread on this… If you really wa...   Thu 26 Sep 2002, 05:01
- - rickenbacker   Thanks, Damann - I'll wait for the new Firewir...   Thu 26 Sep 2002, 10:37
- - truthfind   Just a note to all about an experience that I have...   Thu 26 Sep 2002, 17:04
- - Synthetic   QUOTE Now, let's say you've got 10 Gb free...   Thu 26 Sep 2002, 19:52
- - damann   regarding that last quote. don't use your inte...   Fri 27 Sep 2002, 02:53
- - Presto   "...noticed that some recordings seemed to ha...   Fri 27 Sep 2002, 15:44
- - Synthetic   sometimes its hard to just look at some stats to d...   Fri 27 Sep 2002, 17:07
- - rickenbacker   Synthetic has got it exactly right - home recordis...   Sat 28 Sep 2002, 11:14
- - Presto   I've just got an 80Gb MacWay FW Icebox. It...   Mon 2 Dec 2002, 17:36
- - Levon River   If I've posted this before, it bears repeating...   Tue 3 Dec 2002, 01:22
- - Presto   Had a look - as far as I can see and read its the ...   Tue 3 Dec 2002, 12:15
- - Teiwaz   Hmmm...I know this is an old thread, but I must sa...   Wed 4 Dec 2002, 17:26


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