Dp Or Logic Pro 8? Why Not Both?, The Experiment Options

[deepplay]

I'm posting this thread to request your opinions and experiences in using Logic Pro 8 IN ADDITION to DP. How dare could I ask for this you ask? Well, give a read to the DP Corner posted at audiomidi.com titled "DP or Logic Pro 8" and then come back and share your thoughts. As I begin my experiment with using both I plan to post my findings here. So what do you think? Can they or should they both co-exist on the same system? Is there a reason to have both? How do you use them? Why would you or would you not switch?

[Mac Daddy]

jlaudon, DP is a PC Software, it has been around much longer than Logic. PC always had a jump on Macintosh. If you had a Mac you used, if you could afford it Pro-Tools. The second choice was Cubase. Logic, which was emagic, a Germany company, rival to Cubase (Steinberg) Macintosh purchased emagic several years ago. Macintosh does not really develop Logic. They are still asking for help from emagic and those guys are in Majorca spend the millions they got on the Buy-Out.

Macintosh is more concerned with Hardware. They are too cheap, can you believe it, too cheap to bring in Musical People to develop Logic. I have heard about the MIDI Shortcomings in Logic, fortunately my music is based in Audio. There, I think it sounds as good or better than Pro-Tools.

As far as DP goes? I only know about it from Magazines. Out of all the Studio's and musicians I know, I have never once seen what DP looks like on a Screen. But, whatever works for you, "Do It". I certainly don't go around promoting Macintosh Software, but, I will take Mac Gear over a PC. I've seen in "Real Time" both machines function... Everything works 100% on my Mac. Macintosh does not allow "Bootleg" companies to just introduce themselves into the Mac System. I have used Macintosh since 1992 and never had a virus! 16 years. Of course my machine will explode now.

Whatever works best for you as a musician or music creator, use it. However, I don't think you will find many DP users in 440... Macintosh has been developing GarageBand, but it's sort of like "Fun Research And Development".

I've asked this question before: Does anyone know anyone who has had a "Main Stream" Radio Hit Song using GarageBand?

[gdoubleyou]

jlaudon, DP is a PC Software, it has been around much longer than Logic. PC always had a jump on Macintosh. If you had a Mac you used, if you could afford it Pro-Tools. The second choice was Cubase. Logic, which was emagic, a Germany company, rival to Cubase (Steinberg) Macintosh purchased emagic several years ago. Macintosh does not really develop Logic. They are still asking for help from emagic and those guys are in Majorca spend the millions they got on the Buy-Out.

Macintosh is more concerned with Hardware. They are too cheap, can you believe it, too cheap to bring in Musical People to develop Logic. I have heard about the MIDI Shortcomings in Logic, fortunately my music is based in Audio. There, I think it sounds as good or better than Pro-Tools.

As far as DP goes? I only know about it from Magazines. Out of all the Studio's and musicians I know, I have never once seen what DP looks like on a Screen. But, whatever works for you, "Do It". I certainly don't go around promoting Macintosh Software, but, I will take Mac Gear over a PC. I've seen in "Real Time" both machines function... Everything works 100% on my Mac. Macintosh does not allow "Bootleg" companies to just introduce themselves into the Mac System. I have used Macintosh since 1992 and never had a virus! 16 years. Of course my machine will explode now.

Whatever works best for you as a musician or music creator, use it. However, I don't think you will find many DP users in 440... Macintosh has been developing GarageBand, but it's sort of like "Fun Research And Development".

I've asked this question before: Does anyone know anyone who has had a "Main Stream" Radio Hit Song using GarageBand?

Not sure where you got your info from but Performer has always been Mac-Only software, and they both started thier software products with in a year of each other, MOTU is the older company it came out with midi hardware as it's first products.

[deaconblue]

Well, just to throw in my 2¢, I have been a DP user for years (version 3 and up) and was using DSP before that in OS 9.

DP has always been a rock solid performer and was one of the first to offer surround sound editing and flexible MIDI editing. Very powerful tool.

However, I started using Logic v7 since I got a really good deal on it at the time that DP 5 came out as an upgrade from v4.6. I eventually purchased DP5 as well since Logic was such a paradigm shift for me. Learning curve was way too steep to get a handle on the interface and the benefits over DP (better AU integration, less reliance on MAS plugs, tighter integration with the OS) did not sway me to switch 100% to Logic.

However, when Logic 8/Logic Studio came out and I got a peek at it, I had to move over full bore. Especially with the DP6 upgrade on the far horizon (at the time) and some strange hangs I was having in DP5 that I could not resolved.

Since moving to Logic 8 full time and taking the time to learn it and unlearn some of the habits I picked up in DP, I have to say I find my workflow to be a lot better in LS than it was in DP. Also, the mastering options in LS are heads above those in DP5. I can't speak for DP6, but my understanding is that MOTU has taken care of a lot of the deltas in performance for this release. However, my upgrade cost to DP6 is about half of what the full price of Logic was and it seems like the upgrades on Logic are actually slightly more affordable.

Plus, since Apple is handling the support of the application and the rest of my studio (OS, CPU, etc.) it should be a better support experience should I need it. So far, the forums have been the best help (Apple's and THIS ONE!!!!!).

Also, since I have found GarageBand to be a great sketch pad and the seamless integration of GB -> Logic conversions it makes it even easier to have that project on my PB transfer to my DAW project with one right click (control click for the single button mouse users).

I still have DP and open it occasionally, but I find myself more and more, sticking to Logic for my audio needs. DP is like the old girlfriend I still enjoy having coffee with. As long as LS doesn't get too jealous of those one off 'clandestine meetings' I think I am good to go. LS is now my 'main girl' in the world of DAWs.

All that said, I truly love my MOTU 828 and the fact that MOTU offered the first FireWIre Audio Interface AND wrote their software for Mac only was the primary reason I chose to go with their product line.

I am sure that muddies the water even more than clarifies it. But both products are wonderful applications. I think it is more of a personal preference type thing. If you're going to use GB or Logic Express for any work or collaborate with anyone who does, in addition to Logic 8/Studio, then Logic is the easiest choice to make. If not, then it is a coin toss and a comfort zone question.

peace.