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torchsong
post Wed 20 Nov 2002, 03:17
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Hi, new girl here with lots of questions about hardware and software.
I've read just about everything I can that is somewhat related to my situation but still have ????

I am a cellist and vocalist and want to make backing tracks to play with live and also make demo recordings on my computer. I come from the portastudio school of home recordings so the MIDI stuff is making me nuts!

Here's what I have:
imac running OS 9.2
DX7
Boss DRmkII
Behringer Eurorack
MOTU Fast Lane
Metro 5
OMS 2.3.8 grrrrrrr.....
cello with pickup (although I usually am miked for studio recording)
guitars
cables

I've tried to keep the basic set up simple but am having problems with OMS I think. Metro doesn't seem to like to work with Free MIDI.
I am also having problems playing back audio after recording a track, how am I supposed to hear what I've played to do over dubs?

BTW, I downloaded Pro Tools Free to try it out and just can't get the thing to open (memory error 1,010) so I gave up and went with Metro instead because it was inexpensive to start.

Thanks for any help, this is a great site!
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Levon River
post Sun 24 Nov 2002, 17:12
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QUOTE (torchsong @ Nov 23 2002, 22:15)
Free MIDI is installed but wasn't running  so I turned off OMS and started Free MIDI,  no crashes so I checked the configuration, everything seems to be working, meaning a signal looks like it is coming from the keyboard...

Oh, that's a blessing. That's religion right there. That's manna from the skies. biggrin.gif Now we're getting somewhere...

QUOTE (torchsong @ Nov 23 2002, 22:15)
...except now I have no audio.


Let's keep the MIDI and audio issues separate, or we'll just be back into a taffy-pull. smile.gif

From all that's gone before, it seems now like the culprit has got to be OMS (Now *there's* a gasp-making surprise rolleyes.gif ). Okay, now, I haven't wrestled with this beast in months, and somebody said it changed recently, but there was a function in FreeMidi for it to "Emulate OMS." (Somebody sed recently that now it goes the other way somehow, but I haven't read up on it. Pray some of these other MIDI jockeys will wade in here soon and share their wisdom.) But have you addressed this issue of OMS acting like FreeMidi (for the Fastlane) and/or FreeMidi masquerading as OMS (for Metro)? We may have uncovered the black heart of this anti-musical monster. huh.gif laugh.gif

If you track down what the latest state-of-the-confusion is between FreeMidi><OMS emulation, and get just *that* set up by the book, with yer synth audio outputs NOT going through the computer, but just to somewhere you can hear it, and then run Metro and see what happens with recording and playing back MIDI, that will be a further narrow-down.

Only when the MIDI is working should you start tackling the audio part. They are separate, separate, separate issues. Trying to handle both at once is the fast train to Bedlam. biggrin.gif

QUOTE (torchsong @ Nov 23 2002, 22:15)
I have a pair of computer monitors hooked up to the imac.
Would I want to make an audio connection via the mixer? I don't believe I have the proper size connectors to do that.

angry.gif <A-*hem*!> You just never listen to a word I say, do you? laugh.gif

Adapters are dirt cheap. We'll get there. The *first* step is getting your MIDI equipment talking to your computer and software without crashing the machine.

QUOTE (torchsong @ Nov 23 2002, 22:15)
Where does QuickTime fit into all of this?

Aiiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeee! blink.gif laugh.gif

Leave it alone, girl! biggrin.gif Seriously, it's not in this picture at the moment.

QUOTE (torchsong @ Nov 23 2002, 22:15)
As for Metro and other software, do they only work best with OMS???
I won't ask why  :)


I don't know specifically about Metro in its current incarnation. But if you debug the FreeMidi><OMS emulation quandry, it shouldn't matter. The problems arise when there's one thing expecting to find FreeMidi, another expecting to find OMS. The two were competing proprietary <Spit!> methods of handling MIDI when they both started which did not co-exist well at all at the System level, both trying to take over. MOTU relented and provided an OMS emulation option in FreeMidi. That seemed to work well to solve most problems. As I said, I don't know exactly what happened after that; Opcode went belly up.

QUOTE (torchsong @ Nov 23 2002, 22:15)
Thanks for all the help!


Always been a sucker for a cello.
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P.S. to damann: just read yours, and Metro does in fact support MIDI; it started out as the MIDI-only companion to Deck. Then Deck and Metro got orphaned to different companies. Metro grew audio capabilities; Deck is still audio-only. Maybe Deck is what you were thinking of. Metro and Deck have the same parents.
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- torchsong   New With ??? About My Set Up   Wed 20 Nov 2002, 03:17
- - Levon River   Hi, torchsong. First step of trouble-shooting is t...   Wed 20 Nov 2002, 03:57
- - torchsong   Thanks for the reply Yes to questions 1-4 and the ...   Wed 20 Nov 2002, 07:56
- - Levon River   Good on 1-4. But you earlier said: "...the MI...   Wed 20 Nov 2002, 14:21
- - torchsong   I went back to try and reasses where I was having ...   Thu 21 Nov 2002, 20:05
- - Levon River   Girl, you got more than MIDI problems. But I'v...   Thu 21 Nov 2002, 23:00
- - Levon River   Wait a minute! Did I just hear you say "N...   Thu 21 Nov 2002, 23:07
- - Teiwaz   The alternative to Norton Utilities is Tech Tool P...   Fri 22 Nov 2002, 02:05
- - torchsong   new day, same s**t... Every application on my com...   Fri 22 Nov 2002, 21:00
- - Levon River   QUOTE (torchsong @ Nov 22 2002, 20:00)new day...   Fri 22 Nov 2002, 22:42
- - torchsong   Light candle and commence... [QUOTE]Hmmm. Well, t...   Sat 23 Nov 2002, 23:15
- - damann   hi torchsong, nothing works "bes...   Sun 24 Nov 2002, 04:53
- - Tone   Greetings all I read the comment by damann on MID...   Sun 24 Nov 2002, 06:43
- - Levon River   QUOTE (Tone @ Nov 24 2002, 05:43)I trust the ...   Sun 24 Nov 2002, 16:37
- - Tone   Levon Thanks for the direction I suspected Sound...   Mon 25 Nov 2002, 02:11
- - Levon River   QUOTE (Tone @ Nov 25 2002, 01:11)I suspected ...   Mon 25 Nov 2002, 02:34
- - Levon River   Ummmm, torchsong? Where'd you go? Oh, well......   Sat 30 Nov 2002, 03:36
- - torchsong   aah yeah, playing music the old fashioned way... w...   Wed 4 Dec 2002, 07:51
- - kaboombahchuck   Well hello! Sorry I did not look at this one s...   Wed 4 Dec 2002, 09:45
- - Levon River   QUOTE (torchsong @ Dec 4 2002, 06:51)aah yeah...   Fri 6 Dec 2002, 17:44
- - torchsong   Thanks for your help Kaboombachuck and Levon. Unfo...   Wed 11 Dec 2002, 08:14
- - kaboombahchuck   Welcome back! First things first... Are you ...   Wed 11 Dec 2002, 10:02
- - BagHun   Shall I jump in at this point? Yes! ----------...   Wed 11 Dec 2002, 20:06
- - Levon River   Well, torchsong, you've drawn a crowd and are ...   Thu 12 Dec 2002, 09:18


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