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> Protools--vs--????, lost in the digi jungle----HELP!!
post Sun 7 Jul 2002, 18:34
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i am starting from the ground up with a home studio ....i definitly want a mac i have my own website and as well as being a musician/composer...im also an artist

what i need to know is basicaly this;;

what is the best and most cost efficant way to build a home studio that will be album quality and provide me with the warmth i enjoyed with 24 track 2'' tape --is this possible on a budget of a few grand or am i fooling myself??--------is protools the right way to go and what kind of mac is best 4 what im doing-----HELP PLEASE--- blink.gif
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post Sun 17 Nov 2002, 19:07
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hey, angry.gif

a. yes I did start another thread concerning uad gear, forward thinking gear chat, and recording saxes as I hopefully found a shared interest with Presto (please tell me more dude smile.gif ) If anyone has got all this out of their system, see you in the UAD thread for some enlightened futurology.

I was talking about saxes as a comparison Digi vs. Selmer, two companies that continue to sell gear based on past reputations who now need to pull their fingers out. Well, not that I care that much..biggrin.gif

b."You are not your gear" Why are people taking criticisms of kit personally?

I thought freedom of speech and the right to express an opinion was important? Yes, it's not right to poke children with sticks but aren't I allowed to poke my 001 with a big stick! This is humor and I am refering to the equipment, not the owner. If "it" stands up to criticism, it's propbably very solid.

If hearing someone having a pop at your kit troubles you, I fear it may not be any great sentimentality or sympathetic anthropomorphism, but the knowledge that your hard earned dosh is sat in a companies bank account who don't give a s**t about you.

I have never read a single personal criticism to another member, nor would I want to, this is not the same as a vigorous deabte on the ethics of people who want our dosh. 'I've sold 1000 of these babies' is not justification enough to add virtue to a product. Is it wise to listen to the advice of a salesman who spends all day selling stuff to make a living, or a producer/musician who spends all day pushing the kit to it's limits?

c. Please read the MANY posts to this forum and others where I have tried to offer advice, as a previous experienced 001 owner, and extolled both it's virtues as a complete project studio solution for the newly initiated to mac music, and it's pifalls with lack of consistant compatiblity, customer support into the future and indeed design foresight in many cases.
Let's be really honest about it's place in the market and stop pretending to friends/collegues that if you have an 001 you have a protools rig. Has anyone heard the noise on those unbalanced outputs..geeeezz! smile.gif It's an outmoded idea anyway.

luv Holli x ...tag!
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- midnight   Protools--vs--????   Sun 7 Jul 2002, 18:34
- - Mr.T   You're fooling yourself indeed... Sorry but yo...   Sun 7 Jul 2002, 23:41
- - damann   in this game you're as good as your expertise...   Tue 9 Jul 2002, 23:53
- - Eric Seaberg   I have been a Sonic Solutions user for the past 5 ...   Thu 11 Jul 2002, 06:34
- - damann   my biggest dislike of digidesign is the fact that ...   Fri 12 Jul 2002, 04:44
- - Mr.T   QUOTE (damann @ Jul 12 2002, 05:44)if you...   Fri 12 Jul 2002, 09:33
- - damann   for your information mr t i work in all the big st...   Fri 12 Jul 2002, 17:22
- - Mr.T   QUOTE (damann @ Jul 12 2002, 18:22)you'll...   Sat 13 Jul 2002, 12:35
- - Soif   please, keep cool guys! peace...   Sat 13 Jul 2002, 15:00
- - CeJeRo   I personally have to say that I LOVE both ProTools...   Sun 14 Jul 2002, 02:34
- - damann   sound advice CeJeRo! 'though it's hard...   Sun 14 Jul 2002, 19:26
- - Mr.T   Amen... While we're here, has anyone seen this...   Sun 14 Jul 2002, 22:32
- - Presto   So, you want to set up a studio from scratch(?) an...   Sun 11 Aug 2002, 21:58
- - lepetitmartien   uh oh! Presto, what did you ate this evening? ...   Mon 12 Aug 2002, 02:25
- - Presto   Oops! I've gone an unglorious crimson colo...   Mon 12 Aug 2002, 11:17
- - miss kiki   teasing is great if the teaser and the teased are ...   Mon 12 Aug 2002, 12:06
- - Mac1   To answer the mans original question, Yes you can ...   Mon 12 Aug 2002, 16:51
- - Presto   Yeah! Great! And I believe Mac 1 works mai...   Fri 16 Aug 2002, 22:34
- - Presto   I don't understand why there have been so few ...   Sat 17 Aug 2002, 12:30
- - Mr.T   QUOTE Or do you believe Mr T when he says you can...   Sun 18 Aug 2002, 10:16
- - Presto   I don't have much experience of tape sound qua...   Sun 18 Aug 2002, 17:00
- - III777III   VERY old NEWS there are several MILLION people fr...   Mon 19 Aug 2002, 06:16
- - Mr.T   QUOTE (III777III @ Aug 19 2002, 07:16)VERY ol...   Mon 19 Aug 2002, 09:19
- - rickenbacker   I don't think it matters what gear you're ...   Tue 20 Aug 2002, 11:23
- - Presto   "VERY old NEWS" As Mr T says so rightly...   Tue 20 Aug 2002, 13:28
- - buryya   To continue beating a dead horse on whether a comm...   Wed 21 Aug 2002, 02:50
- - Mr.T   The dead horse is coming alive...good points here....   Wed 21 Aug 2002, 08:59
- - Synthetic   I personally... I think you can record an excellen...   Wed 21 Aug 2002, 20:33
- - damann   didn't i say all of this in the first place? ...   Sun 25 Aug 2002, 03:23
- - burns   ahhhhhhhh children !!!!!!...   Mon 26 Aug 2002, 21:12
- - Mr.T   Ohhhhhhh Newbie !!!!!   Mon 26 Aug 2002, 23:48
- - Yukulele   QUOTE (damann @ Aug 25 2002, 04:23)put mister...   Tue 27 Aug 2002, 02:48
- - beezkneez   hey i read that sting is recording right now using...   Wed 25 Sep 2002, 11:30
- - damann   hi beezkneez, what this means in reality is that h...   Thu 26 Sep 2002, 01:55
- - rickenbacker   On this subject, is anyone out there using an Mbox...   Thu 26 Sep 2002, 10:42
- - damann   a good point, yes, it works fine with logic. th...   Thu 26 Sep 2002, 14:39
- - rickenbacker   Hmm, interesting. I'm still caught in this wei...   Fri 27 Sep 2002, 11:57
- - damann   realistically, there is no limbo state, os9 provid...   Sat 28 Sep 2002, 01:53
- - rickenbacker   "the only reason to be making music with osx ...   Sat 28 Sep 2002, 11:25
- - urbanmatador   > "the only reason to be making music with...   Sat 28 Sep 2002, 22:53
- - Teiwaz   anyone have comparisions between those two (digi v...   Sat 2 Nov 2002, 22:01
- - Teiwaz   "you can currently buy a 24 track tape machin...   Sat 2 Nov 2002, 23:25
- - holli   right on teiwaz, the 2408 is a top piece of kit. O...   Mon 11 Nov 2002, 05:27
- - Teiwaz   Thank you, Holli. (By the way, Holli has an awesom...   Wed 13 Nov 2002, 08:55
- - holli   Haha, lovingly hand built in 1952 and it's nev...   Thu 14 Nov 2002, 04:53
- - damann   QUOTE (holli @ Nov 14 2002, 03:53)Haha, lovin...   Thu 14 Nov 2002, 05:33
- - Presto   I've got a nice Selmer alto sax from the 30...   Thu 14 Nov 2002, 19:27
- - holli   QUOTE Strange that often the classiest and most pr...   Fri 15 Nov 2002, 03:25
- - droltam   well this should heat things up...... I work in a ...   Fri 15 Nov 2002, 06:06
- - damann   QUOTE (holli @ Nov 15 2002, 02:25)Damann, if ...   Sat 16 Nov 2002, 02:09
- - Teiwaz   Yes...rather annoying spurious background chatter....   Sat 16 Nov 2002, 11:55
- - Presto   Bloody hell! Damann and Teiwaz! Should we...   Sat 16 Nov 2002, 16:13
- - holli   i can never really understand why people get obses...   Sat 16 Nov 2002, 18:22
- - lepetitmartien   Just a quick word to tell again that tis forum is ...   Sat 16 Nov 2002, 19:42
- - Teiwaz   Now there's a man who knows his salt from his ...   Sun 17 Nov 2002, 23:29
- - droltam   Protools with Digi hardware sounds better than Cub...   Mon 18 Nov 2002, 02:10
- - lepetitmartien   For info, a smiley was missing in my post… correct...   Mon 18 Nov 2002, 03:49
- - Tone   [ I am an amateur who works with a home VST with ...   Mon 18 Nov 2002, 08:01
- - Teiwaz   In response to droltam's quote: "Protool...   Tue 19 Nov 2002, 02:59


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