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> Protools--vs--????, lost in the digi jungle----HELP!!
post Sun 7 Jul 2002, 18:34
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i am starting from the ground up with a home studio ....i definitly want a mac i have my own website and as well as being a musician/composer...im also an artist

what i need to know is basicaly this;;

what is the best and most cost efficant way to build a home studio that will be album quality and provide me with the warmth i enjoyed with 24 track 2'' tape --is this possible on a budget of a few grand or am i fooling myself??--------is protools the right way to go and what kind of mac is best 4 what im doing-----HELP PLEASE--- blink.gif
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post Fri 15 Nov 2002, 06:06
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well this should heat things up......
I work in a Hi tech Music shop in Sydney and sell everthing from prosumer to Professional systems.

Weve sold over 1000 digidesign 001's most of which as a Turnkey Mac system.. Our issues have been literally NIL. If only all products worked this reliably. Yes, cubase running the direct i/o ASIO driver with dual processor macs required the dual processor extension removed, and only now with the dual mirrored macs has there been really any problem at all. The motherboard problem has now been addressed by apple themselves.

As for 001 and logic, many of the systems were also supplied with logic as it supports Direct i/o (not needing ASIO) and allows incredibly low latency,

Now for a answer….

Both products produce incredible results, with reliability and flexibility. No doubt if you run cubase/logic and a laptop you cant go past the sheer ease of interfacing and cost of a 828.
However the Logic/001 mac desktop combination is more flexible as not only does logic support Digidesign hardware with dedicated drivers but also gets you Protools.

Now you may think “ do I really need protools?” but I guarantee if you want to treat this system as a tape machine, (acoustic recording) the Protools/001 package is superior is ease of use and sound quality. Just as Digital clock and the AD/DA’s are important, so is the way the software handles its AUDIO. This is where Protools EXELS.


The best way to make your OWN decision.

First Objective Test
At a shop set up a system with Both an 828 and 001 connected. Get a good recording in OMF format. Load it into Logic and switch between Motu Asio and Direct i/o.

Second Objective Test
This time take the the same audio tracks from the logic song and import them into a Protools session. If the computer has enough ram you will be able to switch between Logic with the 828 and tools with the 001.

I hope this helps in you reaching a decision. Remember its your ears.


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- midnight   Protools--vs--????   Sun 7 Jul 2002, 18:34
- - Mr.T   You're fooling yourself indeed... Sorry but yo...   Sun 7 Jul 2002, 23:41
- - damann   in this game you're as good as your expertise...   Tue 9 Jul 2002, 23:53
- - Eric Seaberg   I have been a Sonic Solutions user for the past 5 ...   Thu 11 Jul 2002, 06:34
- - damann   my biggest dislike of digidesign is the fact that ...   Fri 12 Jul 2002, 04:44
- - Mr.T   QUOTE (damann @ Jul 12 2002, 05:44)if you...   Fri 12 Jul 2002, 09:33
- - damann   for your information mr t i work in all the big st...   Fri 12 Jul 2002, 17:22
- - Mr.T   QUOTE (damann @ Jul 12 2002, 18:22)you'll...   Sat 13 Jul 2002, 12:35
- - Soif   please, keep cool guys! peace...   Sat 13 Jul 2002, 15:00
- - CeJeRo   I personally have to say that I LOVE both ProTools...   Sun 14 Jul 2002, 02:34
- - damann   sound advice CeJeRo! 'though it's hard...   Sun 14 Jul 2002, 19:26
- - Mr.T   Amen... While we're here, has anyone seen this...   Sun 14 Jul 2002, 22:32
- - Presto   So, you want to set up a studio from scratch(?) an...   Sun 11 Aug 2002, 21:58
- - lepetitmartien   uh oh! Presto, what did you ate this evening? ...   Mon 12 Aug 2002, 02:25
- - Presto   Oops! I've gone an unglorious crimson colo...   Mon 12 Aug 2002, 11:17
- - miss kiki   teasing is great if the teaser and the teased are ...   Mon 12 Aug 2002, 12:06
- - Mac1   To answer the mans original question, Yes you can ...   Mon 12 Aug 2002, 16:51
- - Presto   Yeah! Great! And I believe Mac 1 works mai...   Fri 16 Aug 2002, 22:34
- - Presto   I don't understand why there have been so few ...   Sat 17 Aug 2002, 12:30
- - Mr.T   QUOTE Or do you believe Mr T when he says you can...   Sun 18 Aug 2002, 10:16
- - Presto   I don't have much experience of tape sound qua...   Sun 18 Aug 2002, 17:00
- - III777III   VERY old NEWS there are several MILLION people fr...   Mon 19 Aug 2002, 06:16
- - Mr.T   QUOTE (III777III @ Aug 19 2002, 07:16)VERY ol...   Mon 19 Aug 2002, 09:19
- - rickenbacker   I don't think it matters what gear you're ...   Tue 20 Aug 2002, 11:23
- - Presto   "VERY old NEWS" As Mr T says so rightly...   Tue 20 Aug 2002, 13:28
- - buryya   To continue beating a dead horse on whether a comm...   Wed 21 Aug 2002, 02:50
- - Mr.T   The dead horse is coming alive...good points here....   Wed 21 Aug 2002, 08:59
- - Synthetic   I personally... I think you can record an excellen...   Wed 21 Aug 2002, 20:33
- - damann   didn't i say all of this in the first place? ...   Sun 25 Aug 2002, 03:23
- - burns   ahhhhhhhh children !!!!!!...   Mon 26 Aug 2002, 21:12
- - Mr.T   Ohhhhhhh Newbie !!!!!   Mon 26 Aug 2002, 23:48
- - Yukulele   QUOTE (damann @ Aug 25 2002, 04:23)put mister...   Tue 27 Aug 2002, 02:48
- - beezkneez   hey i read that sting is recording right now using...   Wed 25 Sep 2002, 11:30
- - damann   hi beezkneez, what this means in reality is that h...   Thu 26 Sep 2002, 01:55
- - rickenbacker   On this subject, is anyone out there using an Mbox...   Thu 26 Sep 2002, 10:42
- - damann   a good point, yes, it works fine with logic. th...   Thu 26 Sep 2002, 14:39
- - rickenbacker   Hmm, interesting. I'm still caught in this wei...   Fri 27 Sep 2002, 11:57
- - damann   realistically, there is no limbo state, os9 provid...   Sat 28 Sep 2002, 01:53
- - rickenbacker   "the only reason to be making music with osx ...   Sat 28 Sep 2002, 11:25
- - urbanmatador   > "the only reason to be making music with...   Sat 28 Sep 2002, 22:53
- - Teiwaz   anyone have comparisions between those two (digi v...   Sat 2 Nov 2002, 22:01
- - Teiwaz   "you can currently buy a 24 track tape machin...   Sat 2 Nov 2002, 23:25
- - holli   right on teiwaz, the 2408 is a top piece of kit. O...   Mon 11 Nov 2002, 05:27
- - Teiwaz   Thank you, Holli. (By the way, Holli has an awesom...   Wed 13 Nov 2002, 08:55
- - holli   Haha, lovingly hand built in 1952 and it's nev...   Thu 14 Nov 2002, 04:53
- - damann   QUOTE (holli @ Nov 14 2002, 03:53)Haha, lovin...   Thu 14 Nov 2002, 05:33
- - Presto   I've got a nice Selmer alto sax from the 30...   Thu 14 Nov 2002, 19:27
- - holli   QUOTE Strange that often the classiest and most pr...   Fri 15 Nov 2002, 03:25
- - damann   QUOTE (holli @ Nov 15 2002, 02:25)Damann, if ...   Sat 16 Nov 2002, 02:09
- - Teiwaz   Yes...rather annoying spurious background chatter....   Sat 16 Nov 2002, 11:55
- - Presto   Bloody hell! Damann and Teiwaz! Should we...   Sat 16 Nov 2002, 16:13
- - holli   i can never really understand why people get obses...   Sat 16 Nov 2002, 18:22
- - lepetitmartien   Just a quick word to tell again that tis forum is ...   Sat 16 Nov 2002, 19:42
- - holli   hey, a. yes I did start another thread concernin...   Sun 17 Nov 2002, 19:07
- - Teiwaz   Now there's a man who knows his salt from his ...   Sun 17 Nov 2002, 23:29
- - droltam   Protools with Digi hardware sounds better than Cub...   Mon 18 Nov 2002, 02:10
- - lepetitmartien   For info, a smiley was missing in my post… correct...   Mon 18 Nov 2002, 03:49
- - Tone   [ I am an amateur who works with a home VST with ...   Mon 18 Nov 2002, 08:01
- - Teiwaz   In response to droltam's quote: "Protool...   Tue 19 Nov 2002, 02:59


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