 Protools--vs--????, lost in the digi jungle----HELP!! |
  Sun 7 Jul 2002, 18:34
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i am starting from the ground up with a home studio ....i definitly want a mac i have my own website and as well as being a musician/composer...im also an artist
what i need to know is basicaly this;; what is the best and most cost efficant way to build a home studio that will be album quality and provide me with the warmth i enjoyed with 24 track 2'' tape --is this possible on a budget of a few grand or am i fooling myself??--------is protools the right way to go and what kind of mac is best 4 what im doing-----HELP PLEASE--- 
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Mon 11 Nov 2002, 05:27
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right on teiwaz, the 2408 is a top piece of kit. One feels that Motu are genuinely 'there' for you as well and this is a refreshing change - solid build, rock solid driver support (I don't miss my sporadic errors during mixdown of 20 minute tracks at all!). Thank god all my ins and outs are now balanced and of the same quality. It's been invaluable in getting my project studio analogue sound sources flexible and available in an efficiant way and seems my little 1604 desk is forming a healthy marriage with it based on mutual trust and understanding (?!).
In the 001's defence, when I put my first studio together it did provide all the things I needed in one box while money was tight. I was able to use the adat ins as a live mix in logic from the S6000, and preamps whilst obvoiusly not the greatest got several jobs done. Anyone doing battle with one at the moment (working solely one soundcard/one mac setup) has probably found that working at 24bit and using something like mic mod (emulation turned off) or similar, tube/analogue sat settings dialled in just a touch, then adding gain within the plugin to make up for the lack of gain at the input, 24bits give the plugin more to work with and dither, can do a passable impression of much better gear. It won't fool a pro, but then the 001 isn't really aimed at this market. Audio quality aside, what really, really sucks however is the lack of foresite in the design of the drivers and the who's gives a s**t attitude regarding product support. It is not possible to work proffessionally with this hanging over every decision you make during a job or when aquiring new bits/software/computer upgrade etc. I sold my 001 to a friend just starting out in the world of mac music, having expressed some reservations and problems I had had to overcome (driver conflicts etc) but confident it had run respectably-ish on my dual500. I went round to help him set it up and, oh great, because he was 'unfortunate' enough to own a quicksilver g4 it doesn't work. Dodgy's fix? Replace the motherboard!!! Ever heard of buying a new mac and it not being compatible with your older SCSI legacy stuff for example? This isn't rocket science, it's just the bussing of data from one device to another and the suitable drivers to interpret it, which should presumably be able to be altered/rewritten to suit the host computer! Dodgy have had your cash and now you're just a target market who may be daft enough to hand over some more when your setup prematurely expires. Teiwaz has been consistantly accurate in kit recommendations with regards making music on a mac for a long time now and is a chap with his finger firmly on the pulse. Take heed and save yourself alot of hard earned dosh! Luv to all, Holli x |
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midnight Protools--vs--???? Sun 7 Jul 2002, 18:34
Mr.T You're fooling yourself indeed... Sorry but yo... Sun 7 Jul 2002, 23:41 damann in this game you're as good as your expertise... Tue 9 Jul 2002, 23:53 Eric Seaberg I have been a Sonic Solutions user for the past 5 ... Thu 11 Jul 2002, 06:34 damann my biggest dislike of digidesign is the fact that ... Fri 12 Jul 2002, 04:44 Mr.T QUOTE (damann @ Jul 12 2002, 05:44)if you... Fri 12 Jul 2002, 09:33 damann for your information mr t
i work in all the big st... Fri 12 Jul 2002, 17:22 Mr.T QUOTE (damann @ Jul 12 2002, 18:22)you'll... Sat 13 Jul 2002, 12:35 Soif please, keep cool guys!
peace... Sat 13 Jul 2002, 15:00 CeJeRo I personally have to say that I LOVE both ProTools... Sun 14 Jul 2002, 02:34 damann sound advice CeJeRo!
'though it's hard... Sun 14 Jul 2002, 19:26 Mr.T Amen...
While we're here, has anyone seen this... Sun 14 Jul 2002, 22:32 Presto So, you want to set up a studio from scratch(?) an... Sun 11 Aug 2002, 21:58 lepetitmartien uh oh! Presto, what did you ate this evening?
... Mon 12 Aug 2002, 02:25 Presto Oops! I've gone an unglorious crimson colo... Mon 12 Aug 2002, 11:17 miss kiki teasing is great if the teaser and the teased are ... Mon 12 Aug 2002, 12:06 Mac1 To answer the mans original question, Yes you can ... Mon 12 Aug 2002, 16:51 Presto Yeah! Great! And I believe Mac 1 works mai... Fri 16 Aug 2002, 22:34 Presto I don't understand why there have been so few ... Sat 17 Aug 2002, 12:30 Mr.T QUOTE Or do you believe Mr T when he says you can... Sun 18 Aug 2002, 10:16 Presto I don't have much experience of tape sound qua... Sun 18 Aug 2002, 17:00 III777III VERY old NEWS
there are several MILLION people fr... Mon 19 Aug 2002, 06:16 Mr.T QUOTE (III777III @ Aug 19 2002, 07:16)VERY ol... Mon 19 Aug 2002, 09:19 rickenbacker I don't think it matters what gear you're ... Tue 20 Aug 2002, 11:23 Presto "VERY old NEWS"
As Mr T says so rightly... Tue 20 Aug 2002, 13:28 buryya To continue beating a dead horse on whether a comm... Wed 21 Aug 2002, 02:50 Mr.T The dead horse is coming alive...good points here.... Wed 21 Aug 2002, 08:59 Synthetic I personally... I think you can record an excellen... Wed 21 Aug 2002, 20:33 damann didn't i say all of this in the first place? ... Sun 25 Aug 2002, 03:23 burns ahhhhhhhh children !!!!!!... Mon 26 Aug 2002, 21:12 Mr.T Ohhhhhhh Newbie !!!!! Mon 26 Aug 2002, 23:48 Yukulele QUOTE (damann @ Aug 25 2002, 04:23)put mister... Tue 27 Aug 2002, 02:48 beezkneez hey i read that sting is recording right now using... Wed 25 Sep 2002, 11:30 damann hi beezkneez,
what this means in reality is that h... Thu 26 Sep 2002, 01:55 rickenbacker On this subject, is anyone out there using an Mbox... Thu 26 Sep 2002, 10:42 damann a good point,
yes, it works fine with logic.
th... Thu 26 Sep 2002, 14:39 rickenbacker Hmm, interesting. I'm still caught in this wei... Fri 27 Sep 2002, 11:57 damann realistically, there is no limbo state,
os9 provid... Sat 28 Sep 2002, 01:53 rickenbacker "the only reason to be making music with osx ... Sat 28 Sep 2002, 11:25 urbanmatador > "the only reason to be making music with... Sat 28 Sep 2002, 22:53 Teiwaz anyone have comparisions between those two (digi v... Sat 2 Nov 2002, 22:01 Teiwaz "you can currently buy a 24 track tape machin... Sat 2 Nov 2002, 23:25 Teiwaz Thank you, Holli. (By the way, Holli has an awesom... Wed 13 Nov 2002, 08:55 holli Haha, lovingly hand built in 1952 and it's nev... Thu 14 Nov 2002, 04:53 damann QUOTE (holli @ Nov 14 2002, 03:53)Haha, lovin... Thu 14 Nov 2002, 05:33 Presto I've got a nice Selmer alto sax from the 30... Thu 14 Nov 2002, 19:27 holli QUOTE Strange that often the classiest and most pr... Fri 15 Nov 2002, 03:25 droltam well this should heat things up......
I work in a ... Fri 15 Nov 2002, 06:06 damann QUOTE (holli @ Nov 15 2002, 02:25)Damann, if ... Sat 16 Nov 2002, 02:09 Teiwaz Yes...rather annoying spurious background chatter.... Sat 16 Nov 2002, 11:55 Presto Bloody hell! Damann and Teiwaz!
Should we... Sat 16 Nov 2002, 16:13 holli i can never really understand why people get obses... Sat 16 Nov 2002, 18:22 lepetitmartien Just a quick word to tell again that tis forum is ... Sat 16 Nov 2002, 19:42 holli hey,
a. yes I did start another thread concernin... Sun 17 Nov 2002, 19:07 Teiwaz Now there's a man who knows his salt from his ... Sun 17 Nov 2002, 23:29 droltam Protools with Digi hardware sounds better than Cub... Mon 18 Nov 2002, 02:10 lepetitmartien For info, a smiley was missing in my post… correct... Mon 18 Nov 2002, 03:49 Tone [ I am an amateur who works with a home VST with ... Mon 18 Nov 2002, 08:01
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