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> Is Protools Hd Worth The Money?, upgrading, waiting or simply switching?
xfiles
post Thu 29 Aug 2002, 18:27
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Dear macmusicians.
As a long time reader, i would first like to thank all the macmusic staff for their great and profitable work. wink.gif

As a professional producer and songwriter, i've been using Digidesign products since their very beginning (my first digi was a SoundTools). I'm familiar with the idea of upgrading computer based solutions as the technology permanently evolves but I expect to get something out of it.

Therefore I am VERY disapointed with Digidesign's attitude towards their customers. It seems to be nowadays a generality for manufacturers (including Apple) to sell promises instead of true improvements as well as treating their customers of "walking wallets"...

I was planning to invest in a new Protools HD, for our main room, but the closer I look at it, the more i get the feeling that it is a very uncleaver choice. I really wonder if it's worth the money.

The truth is that nothing is EVER compatible between Digidesign products. The only solution for my studio to be up to date is:

1- Change ALL my digidesign hardware. This means upgrading for a very expensive price, all my processing cards (mix cube and 2 mix farms that i have bought only 10 month ago).

2- Throw out my 4 TDM SampleCell cards (knowing that there is nothing to replace them exept Soft-SampleCell which will never give me the 64 stereo voices needed for emulating symphonics with Miroslav collection for exemple). What an improvment...

3- I will also have to change my brand new USD as well as my three 888 interfaces. (I know I can use them if I buy 3 new Digi interfaces just to connect my old ones). Wow !!! Great deal !!!

4- Most plug-ins (ie TC) are still NOT compatible with HD systems... Anyway, I know I'll have to PAY expensive updates JUST to stay compatible. Who cares, i'm rich!?

5- Major sequencers including my favorite (Logic Audio) don't currently support ProTools HD.
I guess i will have to do with the ridiculous MIDI features of PT 5.

6- I was expecting Digidesign (the big leader) to announce an OS X version of their softwares but they simply let their competitors do it... Knowing (as Steeve Jobs announced it) that the new Mac product line will only support OS X by January, How much $$$ will I have to spend again to upgrade my henceforth costly Digi set up (Plugs and why not hardware again?)

7- BTW Thanks for strongly advising me to buy a very expensive Geronimo 2000 video card that will never be supported by OS X according to Appian themselves.

8- I've heard of big problems with the new Digidesign sync interface.

9- Best of all, I have been told that Digidesign may change their approach and favorise their development on PC's. I guess I will just have to upgrade again...

10- Does anyone at Digidesign care about their customers desesperatly waiting for a simple and efficient way to "direct connect" the growing collection of the amazing VST instruments.

All theses points lead me to reconsider my next investments. Considering it is nowaday easy to find mix farms at an affordable price and that ProTools mix systems are rock solid, I would suggest any "Digidesign shareholder" to wait and see...

Meanwhile I will certainly buy a new G4 just to experiment alternative solutions. The main problems with theses new compititors is that they are good looking, they offer great possibilities, they support many popular standarts and are a hell of a lot cheaper.


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post Sun 1 Sep 2002, 02:43
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QUOTE (theB94 @ Aug 31 2002, 10:54)
By the way, the first client that came in the studio with an HD rig (about 5 months ago)  watched his sync take a shit on him within the first 15 minutes of hooking it up.

i'm aware of problems with their new (expensive) sync interface. I think they just corrected it since a few weeks...
All will certainly work as good as a PT mix, in 2003.... blink.gif

Digi attitude is worst every year! angry.gif


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- xfiles   Is Protools Hd Worth The Money?   Thu 29 Aug 2002, 18:27
- - Synthetic   I totally agree with you about Digidesign business...   Thu 29 Aug 2002, 19:51
- - JackC   Hi Phil, I sympatise completely! I bought a M...   Thu 29 Aug 2002, 20:01
- - prutulz   i totally agree with you phil. Except for people w...   Fri 30 Aug 2002, 13:10
- - DANO10   Ah men to all of the above. I switched to DP3 last...   Fri 30 Aug 2002, 14:43
- - tao067   I work as an engineer at Spark in Emeryville where...   Fri 30 Aug 2002, 17:09
- - bixpender   the HD update besides updating the quality is also...   Sat 31 Aug 2002, 05:16
- - theB94   I work at a well known studio in Los Angeles and m...   Sat 31 Aug 2002, 09:51
- - theB94   By the way, the first client that came in the stud...   Sat 31 Aug 2002, 09:54
- - damann   i should mention that upgrading to "hd" ...   Sun 1 Sep 2002, 03:13
- - Synthetik   My two cents, The only reason I would upgrade f...   Mon 2 Sep 2002, 03:33
- - Stuartpa   I have to agree that Digi is definitely in for the...   Mon 2 Sep 2002, 23:23
- - damann   hi stuartpa! here at macmusic everybody does w...   Wed 4 Sep 2002, 01:06
- - Stuartpa   How the hell do you live if you everything for fre...   Wed 4 Sep 2002, 05:18
- - damann   cheers dude! i know some stuff about the m1#r0...   Wed 4 Sep 2002, 09:58
- - Stuartpa   HI Dman, so Rocket is yet another method used to s...   Wed 4 Sep 2002, 17:48
- - steeveaudio99   QUOTE (xfiles @ Aug 29 2002, 17:27)All theses...   Fri 27 Sep 2002, 17:44
- - III777III   EVERYONE that has been reading this post, would yo...   Tue 1 Oct 2002, 07:00
- - Teiwaz   Hi, this is my first posting. I'm a mate of Da...   Wed 30 Oct 2002, 10:43
- - Teiwaz   A few more observations to clear my head on this m...   Wed 30 Oct 2002, 11:23


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