Day 952--still No Pro Sequencer For Os X, Deliver us, O ye audio/MIDI gods... |
Wed 14 Aug 2002, 05:04
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 296 Joined: 10-Aug 02 From: Rimghobb - UA Member No.: 6,734 |
Even Noah only had to deal with 40 days and 40 nights of rain. Here we've been subjected to a 952-day and 952-night drought with NO, zip, none, nada, nary a single pro combined audio/MIDI program in sight.
Don't point to Reason 2.0: it's a wonderful program, but they admit that they don't even use *actual* MIDI, and I'd rather juggle kittens than use Reason's editors for writing and/or tweaking a part. And of course it doesn't do audio editing at all. Don't point to Deck 3.5: no MIDI sequencing and editing. No, it's a plague and a curse on Mac musicians, a starvation diet, over two years in solitary confinement. But there are promises... Promises, promises... DAY 952 and counting... |
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Fri 30 Aug 2002, 23:24
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Member Group: Members Posts: 73 Joined: 07-Nov 01 From: San Jose - US Member No.: 2,270 |
I agree with Levon River. Live is not a Audio/MIDI sequencer and we all know (and if you don't, maybe you are on a wrong forum) that's not what we are looking for. Same goes for Reason and Deck. They are all great in their own rights.
Both Steinberg and MOTU said they'll release the production systems by the end of this year. Well, you know that when these companies aren't giving you specific dates, chance is shipments won't happen in next month or two. (Yeah, I heard the thing about "September release" too, but that was 6 months ago and nothing was heard afterwards.) As for Apple/Emagic, they haven't made any public statements as to when Logic will be available. Same goes for Digidesign. For one thing, since Apple is pushing CoreAudio and that's what most developers are using, the old code must be changed dramatically. It's not making the pretty GUI that takes the most time. It's making sure the audio engine works fine that takes the longest. If you have ever looked at the source code for those audio stuff, you know how scary it is to rewrite the Audio I/O, right? Secondly, Apple revised Audio HAL and MIDI Services in Jaguar. As the result, the API improved alot. However, some of the older API's were deprecated as well. While they have gone through extensive CoreAduio/MIDI Service sessions in the last WWDC 2002 (and you could pretty much meet engineers from every major companies discussed in these threads! They are working very hard.), it will take some time for the developers to catch up and rewrite the code that was written for 10.1.x. I am glad though that these developers are taking time to make sure the software works! In the mean time, I am content with my OS 9. BTW, I noticed some ppl were spitting out jargon such as "CoreMIDI". I was not aware of an API called CoreMIDI. Pls correct me if I am wrong. Please read this page for general info on OS X Audio: http://developer.apple.com/audio/coreaudio.html |
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Levon River Day 952--still No Pro Sequencer For Os X Wed 14 Aug 2002, 05:04
bixpender actually logic and cubase are both coming out in s... Thu 15 Aug 2002, 04:53
BusError This is wrong. CoreAudio was ready, and was workin... Thu 15 Aug 2002, 08:27
Levon River Well, BusError, that's pretty interesting info... Thu 15 Aug 2002, 15:33
rickenbacker I don't think companies showing products at tr... Fri 16 Aug 2002, 10:57
BusError I don't know really what happends. It's tr... Fri 16 Aug 2002, 13:48
Yukulele QUOTE (Levon River @ Aug 14 2002, 06:04)Here ... Sat 17 Aug 2002, 09:51
Levon River I'm afraid Live also isn't in the same cat... Sat 17 Aug 2002, 16:06
prutulz QUOTE (Levon River @ Aug 17 2002, 17:06)That... Fri 30 Aug 2002, 13:27
filarion Hey, no dissing Live, it´s a wonderful program. Ta... Fri 30 Aug 2002, 15:54
Levon River QUOTE (filarion @ Aug 30 2002, 14:54)Hey, no ... Fri 30 Aug 2002, 21:34
filarion I´m totally with you on this issue. My only guess ... Fri 30 Aug 2002, 23:24
filarion Sigh. Again, I never said that Live was, we were o... Sat 31 Aug 2002, 08:06
rickenbacker For what it's worth, I was talking to the sale... Sat 31 Aug 2002, 12:19
DANO10 Hey guys. There is a professional Audio/MIDI seque... Sat 31 Aug 2002, 14:54
bdeep The fact that emagic haven't announced an exac... Sat 31 Aug 2002, 19:17
filarion Audio yeah, but does Deck have any MIDI capabiliti... Sat 31 Aug 2002, 22:19
damann QUOTE (filarion @ Aug 31 2002, 07:06)But, sin... Sun 1 Sep 2002, 01:39
filarion A real pity, especially since they´re developing a... Sun 1 Sep 2002, 10:56
Levon River My original plaint that started this thread has no... Mon 2 Sep 2002, 01:12
bixpender actually logic and cubase are both coming out in s... Thu 15 Aug 2002, 04:53
BusError This is wrong. CoreAudio was ready, and was workin... Thu 15 Aug 2002, 08:27
Levon River Well, BusError, that's pretty interesting info... Thu 15 Aug 2002, 15:33
rickenbacker I don't think companies showing products at tr... Fri 16 Aug 2002, 10:57
BusError I don't know really what happends. It's tr... Fri 16 Aug 2002, 13:48
Yukulele QUOTE (Levon River @ Aug 14 2002, 06:04)Here ... Sat 17 Aug 2002, 09:51
Levon River I'm afraid Live also isn't in the same cat... Sat 17 Aug 2002, 16:06
prutulz QUOTE (Levon River @ Aug 17 2002, 17:06)That... Fri 30 Aug 2002, 13:27
filarion Hey, no dissing Live, it´s a wonderful program. Ta... Fri 30 Aug 2002, 15:54
Levon River QUOTE (filarion @ Aug 30 2002, 14:54)Hey, no ... Fri 30 Aug 2002, 21:34
filarion I´m totally with you on this issue. My only guess ... Fri 30 Aug 2002, 23:24
filarion Sigh. Again, I never said that Live was, we were o... Sat 31 Aug 2002, 08:06
rickenbacker For what it's worth, I was talking to the sale... Sat 31 Aug 2002, 12:19
DANO10 Hey guys. There is a professional Audio/MIDI seque... Sat 31 Aug 2002, 14:54
bdeep The fact that emagic haven't announced an exac... Sat 31 Aug 2002, 19:17
filarion Audio yeah, but does Deck have any MIDI capabiliti... Sat 31 Aug 2002, 22:19
damann QUOTE (filarion @ Aug 31 2002, 07:06)But, sin... Sun 1 Sep 2002, 01:39
filarion A real pity, especially since they´re developing a... Sun 1 Sep 2002, 10:56
Levon River My original plaint that started this thread has no... Mon 2 Sep 2002, 01:12
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